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ChrisBoom
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14th Feb 10 at 23:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Anyone know what the hell this fits? Says on it 250v anyways:

gtitim
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14th Feb 10 at 23:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

3 phase supply??
ChrisBoom
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14th Feb 10 at 23:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah, found the manual online for it, 415v 3 phase.

Dunno where the hell im going to get a 415v socket to test the bloody thing though
oceansoul
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Doesnt look like a 3 phase plug, if it is there is no earth. Looks more like an old 15A BS546 domestic plug. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS_546
ChrisBoom
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15th Feb 10 at 00:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I read the manual wrong, mine is a king 40 rather than a king 50, according to the book its 240v, single phase. Could I just stick on a standard 3 pin plug?
S@M
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yes just change it for a standard modern plug mate. the cores will be labelled inside
Jamie-C
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I think you need one of yellow box things, can't remember the name They have them on sites and there for 240v tools iirc
ChrisBoom
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God knows, ill stick on a normal plug, if it blows up then meh
Jamie-C
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Are sockets in the house not 110v?
ChrisBoom
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quote:
Originally posted by Jamie-C
Are sockets in the house not 110v?


240v.

110v is the yellow 3 pin plugs you were on about.
Jamie-C
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One of these you need i think, converts 240v to 110v, has your plug under the flap and a normal plug at the end of the wire.

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If it needs 240 single phase then give it that.

Doesn't need converting to 110 if the manual says 240!
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quote:
Originally posted by ChrisBoom
quote:
Originally posted by Jamie-C
Are sockets in the house not 110v?


240v.

110v is the yellow 3 pin plugs you were on about.
Ah right, ignore my comment abbove then
Dom
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It's a 15 amp round pin (BS 546) plug, rarely used now apart from stage lighting dimmers and a few bits of machinery. Can get converter cables, but it's easier to just rip it off and replace it with a standard 13 amp plug (that's if it doesn't require more than 13amps).


edit - i'm guessing it might be on a welder or similar, make sure you check the fuse ratings before changing the plugs as it might be the case that it needs a 15amp feed...

edit 2 - also note that the UK now follows EU, so we're supplied 230v +/-10%

[Edited on 15-02-2010 by Dom]
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quote:
Originally posted by S@M
yes just change it for a standard modern plug mate. the cores will be labelled inside
Wrighty
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15th Feb 10 at 01:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

could be one of them sorta plugs you put in your bum
C2RL R
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That plug is a BS546 round pin plug. they were made for industrial use and are available in 2, 5 and 15 amp sizes. check the rating of the appliance. If it's 13 amp or less then stick a BS1363-A plug on it. to me it looks like it may need a bigger supply going off the size of the cable. you may need to run a supply in for it. you will have two options then. either keep that plug and put a socket in that mates with it. or fit the 16 amp single phase blue plug and sockets.
ed
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Our old house had a load of plugs like that when we first moved in. I remember we went on holiday for two weeks while the sparkys came in and re-wired the lot

[Edited on 15-02-2010 by ed]
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quote:
Originally posted by C2RL R
That plug is a BS546 round pin plug. they were made for industrial use and are available in 2, 5 and 15 amp sizes. check the rating of the appliance. If it's 13 amp or less then stick a BS1363-A plug on it. to me it looks like it may need a bigger supply going off the size of the cable. you may need to run a supply in for it. you will have two options then. either keep that plug and put a socket in that mates with it. or fit the 16 amp single phase blue plug and sockets.



As said, rip off the BS546 plug. If the welder (or judging by your other thread; plasma cutter) is 13A or less then stick on a normal plug. If its >13 then you'll need to run a seperate supply for it and terminate using this type of Plug and Socket.


quote:
Originally posted by Jamie-C
One of these you need i think, converts 240v to 110v, has your plug under the flap and a normal plug at the end of the wire.




Wont need one of these. This steps the voltage down to 110V from 230V. His welder operates on 230V. I think your getting confussed with the 110V plugs, which have a similer type of pin arrangement

[Edited on 15-02-2010 by oceansoul]
C2RL R
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some of the replies in here are a little concerning!
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All I know is some stage lighting uses those plugs still!
C2RL R
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they are still in use so i'm not suprised. i have a box full of them right next to me actually.
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by C2RL R
That plug is a BS546 round pin plug. they were made for industrial use and are available in 2, 5 and 15 amp sizes. check the rating of the appliance. If it's 13 amp or less then stick a BS1363-A plug on it. to me it looks like it may need a bigger supply going off the size of the cable. you may need to run a supply in for it. you will have two options then. either keep that plug and put a socket in that mates with it. or fit the 16 amp single phase blue plug and sockets.


called 16A/32A IP44 Plug/Socket, i don't think they are colour dependant. Also there isn't such a thing as a 110v plug/socket (could be wrong), it's just that some sites/stores label up the IP44 plug/socket as 110v.


Pow - stage lighting dimmers and followspots tend to use BS546, otherwise it's IEC.
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we have a few sockets like that at that farm and stuff with that plugs also. We have extensions with a round pin plug to go into the mains but the sockets on the extension are the normal plug type. Have some people never seen a 110vplug? Totally different to a standard plug!
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quote:
Originally posted by C2RL R
some of the replies in here are a little concerning!



exactly my thoughts........

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