ismail redtop c
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im thinking of upgrading my c20let with new a turbo
i just bought a t25 manifold
just wondering what turbo is better to get more power out of
is the ford focus rs garrett turbo any good as they go for prices like £400 £500
and the nissan 200sx t25 turbo much cheaper
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Col004
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what management you running mate
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ismail redtop c
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is that the ecu?
its got a phase 2 chip init im running round 260bhp on my kk16 turbo
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Col004
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t3 then or if you can afford it a gt28. t3's run great on the any phase chip set.
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ismail redtop c
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what sort of power would i get with the t3? as some people are sayin kk16 are better :S
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wwwNOOBcom
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Lmao a t3 is better then a kkk16 by a mile, the kkk16 wont do 300, a t3 will do 320-330 all day long and you can run it oil cooled only as well, a t34 will do 380 as well, expect to pay about 400 for a top notch t34 and about 60-100 for a t3
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Nic Barnes
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have seen a few kkk get 300 and above before?
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Col004
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My mate over on mig has just made 303 on phase 2 at the fly with a kkk16. my other mate is a tad over 385 with a t3 on phase 4. just to give you an idear
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Nic Barnes
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302 i got on kkk on phase 3. Mates nova got 326 i think it was but allegedly a hybrid kkk.
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ismail redtop c
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yeh im going for gt28 turbo as i got the manifold already
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wwwNOOBcom
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
have seen a few kkk get 300 and above before?
yea rebuilt on not good used ones, you pushing 280 on s well used one, plus even 300 on a rebuilt on will last no time, the cost of a rebuild on a kkk is what compaired to a 2nd hand t3
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Col004
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kkk are a good turbo.. before my mate went to a t3 he ran over 300hp on evo5 chips on one for over 2 years.. and killed it everytime he drove it. and that wasn't a recon when he built the car.
I think a t3 is a very good turbo if you want good driverble power. any more than 350hp in a fwd car especialy a corsa on a contry road or track is wasted. past 350 your talking 1/4 mile cars. depends what you want matey.
even 350 is a touch too much 
[Edited on 02-03-2010 by Col004]
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Nic Barnes
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dunno noob i had that kkk at 300 for about 4 years. Know plenty of others that are the same. Its not the turbo its the all in one compressor and manifold that fuck them with boost. Turbo itself isnt bad.
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wwwNOOBcom
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I know the turbo itself i good but i think a t3 is the best of both worlds as its so cheap to buy, so cheap to repair and will make good power all day long, a hybred one could possibly make 350 i think as well
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john_c20xe
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i made 315 bhp out of my standard kkk 
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by wwwNOOBcom
I know the turbo itself i good but i think a t3 is the best of both worlds as its so cheap to buy, so cheap to repair and will make good power all day long, a hybred one could possibly make 350 i think as well
by the time you factor in a manifold, a down pipe. changing the oil lines. sorting the inlet pipe out. is it really that cheap? rebuild kit for a kkk isnt all that costly compared to others.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/C20LET-KKK16-MAJOR-REBUILD-KIT_W0QQitemZ200442327282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item2eab4b30f2
dont get me wrong, ive not looked into a t3 rebuild kit. if i was going to the hassle of changing turbo's, id get something that would make a decent amount more than the kkk would or id not bother.
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wwwNOOBcom
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You can make the oil lines yourself from 20 quid of braided lines, -6 stright fitting from the block and what ever banjo or -4 6 -8 ect, you can make the oil line up for less then 40 quid and use any pipe for the return
The inlet pipe can be made from a 90 degree bend silcon hose from any ebay merchant and any decent exhaust place can make you a bend for the exhaust, you can even make it yourself if you have some stainless pipe and a cheap chop saw and a welder
Then use the 200sx manifold ext you can even cut ther neck of the standard kkk manifold and weld a t3 flange onto it, as long as the turbo is suported it wont brake
After all this you can swap the core out and make a t34 if you like, much better then a hybred kkk16, that is going to cost you 600 max, i dont know how much a hybred kkk will be but i doubt less then this also
This is ofcourse if your wanting to up the power, i think its a much better approach then the kkk, after all thats the aim of the game
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Nic Barnes
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i know how much it costs to diy it. most people wont do it that way though and will see it as rather an expense that isnt majorly necessary. thats all i meant.
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