thegsi
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Was just chatting to my mate who has not long bought a Focus RS and I was asking why they didn't put a 4WD system into production into it. Then we got onto the subject of torque steer with my car blah blah blah and he linked me to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhq6sjIo5Cs
Interesting I thought
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CORSA NUT
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It's just because they never had a 4WD system to fit to it...simple really.
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SetH
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Still cant defy the laws of physics IMHO
That is all
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thegsi
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quote: Originally posted by CORSA NUT
It's just because they never had a 4WD system to fit to it...simple really.
My mate (who works for Ford) said they did actually produce one but because of the weight, it was producing too much co2 and it broke emission regulations.
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CORSA NUT
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Oooooooooooo really?? Still should have fitted it IMO Fuk the regs
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Jambo
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they didn't do it because it would cost to much.
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sand-eel
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Why is the vid like lots of recorded words joined together
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sand-eel
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I bet the 4x4 system wasn't put in becuase it would add another £10k to the list price.
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connollygt30
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My mate also has one and has started tuning it and it doesnt need 4WD its perfect the way it is and still holds even with extra bhp
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Nick-S
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the Megane RS and Clio RS has had the same technology for years. They just called it independent steering axis front suspension.
Renault just dont seem to make the same amount of fuss over it as ford do
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Griffiths1991
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quote: Originally posted by Jambo
they didn't do it because it would cost to much.
Nail on the head.
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Ian
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What a load of tosh.
Are you seriously telling me that all cars without Revo knuckle drive like the red one?
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Adam_B
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Only during, 'sporty driving'
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Graham88
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quote: Originally posted by Ian
Are you seriously telling me that all cars without Revo knuckle drive like the red one?
That's what I was thinking
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Colin
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Still 100x more informative than the dealers when you go in to enquire about buying one even though it is a load of shite!
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adiohead
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a guy in a blue rover nearly drove into me tonight, because he was driving like the red car. stupid bastard.
i heard that ford wanted to use the volvo 4wd system but it couldn't handle the power and would need improving. no idea if it's true or complete bullshit.
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mike56gte
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quote: Originally posted by adiohead
a guy in a blue rover nearly drove into me tonight, because he was driving like the red car. stupid bastard.
i heard that ford wanted to use the volvo 4wd system but it couldn't handle the power and would need improving. no idea if it's true or complete bullshit.
a wouldnt think so as u get volvos with 300bhp as standard.
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ed
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Auto Express say that there's going to be a 4x4 Focus RS Clubsport when this model runs out
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Fro
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At the red car.
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SetH
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Mitsubishi and Subaru manage to do it in sub 30k cars so why can't ford?
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Ojc
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@ that video.
And like GSi_16v says Renault have had it for years but it wears a RS badge so we are supposed to be in awe of it
You could solve that poor red cars issue with a Quaife differential, £500 quid. BANG
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Ben G
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quote: Originally posted by Ian
What a load of tosh.
Are you seriously telling me that all cars without Revo knuckle drive like the red one?
i thought that too, never did it in my focus to that extent at all.
the rs drives great as standard, 4wd would've been nice to compete with evo/impreza but it doesn't really need it.
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ed
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quote: Originally posted by SetH
Mitsubishi and Subaru manage to do it in sub 30k cars so why can't ford?
Mitsubishi and Subaru make 4x4 saloons as well as their rally homologations. I assume Ford of Europe don't really think they need to start making 4x4 Mondeos and Focus' therefore there probably isn't the point in them developing a 4x4 system for a single trim level of a single model which they are going to sell relatively few of.
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Ben G
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i don't think people understand the development costs of making a decent, useable 4wd system tbh.
like you say, developing and manufacturing it for it to be used in just one type of trim of one car may seem good to people who want to drive fast everywhere, but it would cost millions just to design and build it.
they could've used the kuga system i suppose but it's not very good.
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ed
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I'd imagine the Kuga is just an FWD system with a transfer box too. No good if you want to go about taking on the Japanese...
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