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Nic Barnes
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22nd Mar 10 at 18:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRS-Magnum-4-point-saloon-race-car-harness_W0QQitemZ170332242409QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item27a897c1e9

cant remember who it was that said it now, but saloon ones will be long enough to go to the rear strut brace on a corsa? just wanting to make sure before i buy them

cheers
spikedjack
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22nd Mar 10 at 18:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

it was me that said it originally, and im 99.9% sure yes, just get someone else to confirm before you purchase
Nic Barnes
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22nd Mar 10 at 18:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i have sent the seller a question fwe days ago but they havent got back to me yet. ones to fit a strut brace seem hard to find without being very pricey.
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22nd Mar 10 at 18:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i have willlans saloon ones and although there is no harness bar in my Cage, they are plenty long enough to reach there.
ed
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22nd Mar 10 at 18:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Why don't you want to mount them onto the mounting points?
Nic Barnes
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22nd Mar 10 at 18:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

stuff in the way
chrex
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22nd Mar 10 at 19:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

they will easily reach nic yea. I had them to rear mounting points and had loads of adjustment hanging slack.

You shouldnt have any problems!
Nic Barnes
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22nd Mar 10 at 19:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nice one, cheers chrex and spikedjack for the info and help.
ScottBeck
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22nd Mar 10 at 21:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nic ive got trs harnesses in mine going around the strut brace. if in doubt ill go measure mine if need be
harrisp
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22nd Mar 10 at 22:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by ed
Why don't you want to mount them onto the mounting points?


aren't they safer being more horizontal or am I imagining reading/hearing that?
ed
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mantamark
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That diagram's a bit odd, so the shoulder harness have to go to a 20 degree angle from the shoulders, but not mount to a bar?

Where they going to mount to, the rear window?
spikedjack
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23rd Mar 10 at 00:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

happy to help nic.
Adam_B
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quote:
Originally posted by mantamark
Where they going to mount to, the rear window?

Roll cage or a harness bar.
mantamark
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But at the top theres the pic of it mounting to a bar?
ed
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It means that you're not meant to loop 4 point harnesses because they can slip.
ed
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Though I think that only applies if you're not using bucket seats with harness holes.
Nic Barnes
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but technically with an eye bolt fixing they are looped through that any way ed arent they? As it runs through the metal bit with the hook on? I have to put them to the roll cage. Seen loads and loads done like this so not sure what the deal is?
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23rd Mar 10 at 08:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

But with an eye bolt there's no risk of them slipping, but if you've got a proper seat with harness holes then they ought not to slip too. That version of that diagram isn't great, I'll try find the proper annotated one today if people are interested, that was only to answer harrisp's question about the angles the webbing should go at.
Nic Barnes
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23rd Mar 10 at 09:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

but we can confirm its ok to mount them on to a cage?
ed
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Yea, so long as it's fixed to the cars chassis. They do it all the time on WRC cars e.t.c...
Nic Barnes
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23rd Mar 10 at 09:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

cool enough for me ed.
andyc1234
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Mounting to cage is fine mounting to ebay strut braces is not so
Nic Barnes
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well hopefully will get ordered up tonight when i get back from work. Just mot, tax and 2 front track related tyres and mapping left to do. Oh and get the glass back in.
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mounting them to the cage is absolutely fine, they sometimes weld the eyelets to the cage to prevent them from slipping around, but as said with seats with a dedicated hole for each strap, this wont be a problem

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