RichR
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We were having a debate last night and the general conclusion was that Unions have no place in the modern day and age - discuss 
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Cosmo
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They have a place, but they should realise that their place is not protecting jobs or demanding silly wage increases that could put the company in danger or threaten the economy - as theyre currently doing.
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Conway563
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They're generally all cunts IMO
I work on a couple of government contracts one of which is running at 45% efficiency of staff.  If they got rid of people to bring themselves up to just 75% it would save tax payers over £6m a year yet the unions are asking them to strike due to not getting a payrise
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ed
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That fat idiot who runs the RMT is the definition of a work union. Useless waste of space.
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RichR
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I disagree that Teachers need a union.........
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John
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Teachers are about the only people who do, they're getting a hard time of it atm.
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Hammer
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They work in theory as a collective voice, in practice not so much.
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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by LiVe LeE
I disagree that Teachers need a union.........
Id say all jobs need (well not need but can use) a Union as it can be a good place to contact should you not be being treated how you should (i.e. when it comes to sick, holidays, general problems, etc.)
They shouldnt have the powers to walk out demanding silly pay rises during times of economic hardship.
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alan-g-w
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Agreed with the OP.
Union Reps in workplaces used to have a lot of clout, but in my experience working in a large (engineering) company under Unite they couldn't give a fuck about what the workers wanted.
I got given a formal warning for being late for college - but two others that were just as late as me ended up just getting away with it. I told my union guy that I wanted to appeal it and he just told me to leave itand get my head down. I took his advice thinking it was quite appropriate. Cue me getting laid off my job at the end of my apprenticeship due to having this warning on record, even after keeping my nose clean for the remainder.
Obviously that's just my experience, but even when it came down to wage rises and working conditions - the union just wanted us to agree with the bosses without even putting up a fight. Total arseholes just doing it for a wee bit of time off work.
[Edited on 17-09-2010 by alan-g-w]
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kz
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Don't be silly Unicorns never existed in any age.
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Havoc
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union got me my job back and back dated pay. im not complaining.
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Nath
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I like how much Union bosses get paid.
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random dav
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quote:
Originally posted by John
Teachers are about the only people who do, they're getting a hard time of it atm.
and other public workers.
I hope they pull their finger out and sort something as they get enough ££'s in membership
WRLFC !
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Ian
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I'm a member of the IGU
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Ben G
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i'm with unite, as are pretty much every one in ford, so a very big union.
they get us good wage increases, but don't really do anything else. waste of time really. costs me £1.50 a week too
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csweatherston
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£1.50 a week!, mines £11 per month!!
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gtitim
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Try Police Federation then - £18 a month, no right to strike, loads of things we cannot do, yet Fire Service, NHS etc can. Teachers get 12+ wks holiday per yr, more pay than me, no weekends, Bank holidays, nights etc. Not a hard life in comparison. I made my choice to join, yet get screwed over royally in comparison with other jobs.
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Ian
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12 weeks  and the rest 
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Ben G
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quote:
Originally posted by csweatherston
£1.50 a week!, mines £11 per month!!
i think it's cheaper if theres more members. in the paper yesterday it said unite has 2.5 million members. they must earn ££££££££££££££'s.
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AlunJ
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
That fat idiot who runs the RMT is the definition of a work union. Useless waste of space.
wish he'd hurry up and get my payrise whilst i'm paying his wages 
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csweatherston
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
quote:
Originally posted by csweatherston
£1.50 a week!, mines £11 per month!!
i think it's cheaper if theres more members. in the paper yesterday it said unite has 2.5 million members. they must earn ££££££££££££££'s.
Well, im with T+G...which i think is aprt of Unite????
bugger
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Rick Draper
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I pay £16.38 and am a member of BASSA which is part of Unite.
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jimmy 2.1
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I've found that the Unions at where i've worked and currently work are all stuck in the 80's, going on about Thatcher this Thatcher that. They're also as bad as company management in terms of keeping things to them selves and dictating things to you.
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Ben G
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quote:
Originally posted by Rick Draper
I pay £16.38 and am a member of BASSA which is part of Unite.
crazy
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taylorboosh
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i disagree with unions, if i want to strike i would do so on my own back not because they say so
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