Steve
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Discussion going on here about speeds limits and dual carriageways.
The general view, and indeed DVLA's is no matter how many lanes the road has it is only a 70mph dual carriageway if the lanes are seperated by a central reservation. Anything else is 60mph.
This is where the confusion is, some people are saying the central reservation must have a fixed barrier to be classed as a 70mph road, im not so sure though, im think grass or raised kerbs would also count
can anyone find any official media to state what is applicable
[Edited on 05-10-2010 by Steve]
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mwg
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I just speed everywhere so don't worry about speed limits
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whitter45
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its defined as the roads being seperated so raised kerbs with grass etc count
thats what I was told on my speed awareness course
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3CorsaMeal
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tell people to stfu, you can do whatever speed you want, its the polices job to catch you
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RichR
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I was always under the impression that it was a central divider - Whatever form that took, be it reservation, barrier, hardstanding or kerb/grass
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John
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I hadn't heard of that one Steve.
Although thinking about it, I probably wouldn't think of a road with 4 lanes and no reservation as a dual carriageway, it's normally just for overtaking or up big hills etc.
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Daveskater
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quote: Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
tell people to stfu, you can do whatever speed you want, its the polices job to catch you
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pow
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quote: Originally posted by LiVe LeE
I was always under the impression that it was a central divider - Whatever form that took, be it reservation, barrier, hardstanding or kerb/grass
This
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smcGSI16V
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National speed limit if sign is displayed on dual carriage way is 70mph unless otherwise specified. Whether that devide be a barrier, kerb, grass, cows, humans, gnomes.
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Steve
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yeah its the definiation of it being a dual carriage way that is the problem
no divide/paintined line but dual lane carriage way is still 60 only.
its the fact some people dont think a dual carraigeway divide can be anything other then with a fixed barrier
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3CorsaMeal
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have you been caught speeding Steve?
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Steve
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no m8 u
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Ojc
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I bet he has, thats why he is acting weird.
he is doing so many miles lately I wouldnt be suprised.
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Steve
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nah someone in the office was sounding off that a road round here was a 60mph when i know full well its a 70.
The road is dual lane with a grass verge and trees down the middle, he is adamant that its a 6- though because theres no fixed barrier.
im going to punch him square in the nose in a minute
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DaveyLC
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quote: Originally posted by whitter45
its defined as the roads being seperated so raised kerbs with grass etc count
thats what I was told on my speed awareness course
This was talked about on my SA course too.. The guy running the course also said it could be argued that hatchings with solid lines count as a reservation
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ed
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It would be signposted in most cases if it wasn't a 70mph limit. Take the A38M, what the fuck were they thinking of there?
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whitter45
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quote: Originally posted by ed
It would be signposted in most cases if it wasn't a 70mph limit. Take the A38M, what the fuck were they thinking of there?
although if you see a national speed limit sign it can be either 60 or 70 depending on what Steve has posted
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3CorsaMeal
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quote: Originally posted by Steve
nah someone in the office was sounding off that a road round here was a 60mph when i know full well its a 70.
The road is dual lane with a grass verge and trees down the middle, he is adamant that its a 6- though because theres no fixed barrier.
im going to punch him square in the nose in a minute
does this guy know you have 4 laser guns?
make him aware and he might think twice about messing you
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LoudandProud
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i actually got told this by a copper once...
if its national speed limit and one lane its 60 regardless of the central reservation, if its 2 lane unless otherwise posted then its 70
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Ian
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quote: Originally posted by Steve
nah someone in the office was sounding off that a road round here was a 60mph when i know full well its a 70.
The road is dual lane with a grass verge and trees down the middle, he is adamant that its a 6- though because theres no fixed barrier.
There's one the same near me with a speed camera on, which I do 70 past and it's never flashed.
No barrier, just grass on a raised bit of kerb.
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Ben G
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my missus' mum thinks that all dual carriageways and motorways have 60mph limits
but this is because she is a fucking fat cunt.
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SXi_Tim
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quote: Originally posted by Ben G
my missus' mum thinks that all dual carriageways and motorways have 60mph limits
but this is because she is a fucking fat cunt.
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Teddy
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A dual carriageway (divided highway) is a highway in which the two directions of traffic are separated by a central barrier or strip of land, known as a central reservation (median).
A "DUAL CARRAGEWAY" to be given its full term as defined, must be seperated by a piece of land.
[Edited on 05-10-2010 by Teddy]
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John
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Is that from wikipedia or have they quoted some reliable source that you have?
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pow
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A hatched area certainly does not mkae a central reservation
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