8vcorsa
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are both of these engines lotus tuned because i have been told my x16xe is a lotus tuned one aswell like any help please ??
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IvIarkgraham
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lotus designed them then gave them back to vauxhall who butchered lotus's work and made them slow
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8vcorsa
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so they both are lotus tuned yeah and both around 150 or 155bhp
[Edited on 01-11-2010 by 8vcorsa]
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IvIarkgraham
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no
both around 106-109
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8vcorsa
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i mean can they both achieve around 150 - 155bhp
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8vcorsa
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and are they both lotus tuned
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Generation
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Lotus designed them as he said already. They can achiece 250+ if you have thousands to spend..
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philip2
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c16xe was the lotus developed engine made 148bhp, vauxhall didnt like the fact they got so much power as it made the gsi at the time with the 20xe in look poor so they restrcited the power and to keep some of the torque made them with them stupidly long inlet tract.
sbd claim on a fresh standard c16xe they make 164bhp on throttle bodies, but im sure they have now changed the figures to 150bhp.
ive tried to find out what lotus did exactly but nobody knows.
the x16xe has smaller inlet ports than the c16xe too.
and sbd have managed 241bhp, but thats a 10k revver, all steel, dry sumped, slipper pistons, 5mm valves, ti caps, springs, silly 300+dur cams etc etc
[Edited on 02-11-2010 by philip2]
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8vcorsa
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so if i get hold of a c16xe head it will be fine to put that on my engine with its bigger inlet posts or get mine ported and polished ??
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philip2
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you wouldnt see that much diff by just putting the head on, ideally you will need to raise rev limit, arp rod bolts, powerbox type inlet, mapped ecu etc if wanted to get near the lotus power. you could have your head ported/polished though
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8vcorsa
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i think ill get it ported and polished if its cheap and powerbox and reprofile my cams to piper fast road cams
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8vcorsa
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and i got a full exhaust system onit pro tech 4-1 manifold then magnex de-cat then remus race tube then peco big bore 4
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tom_simes
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quote:
Originally posted by philip2
ive tried to find out what lotus did exactly but nobody knows.
[Edited on 02-11-2010 by philip2]
I'll have a good search on my laptop at home when I remember - I'm pretty sure I've got a pdf I downloaded once upon a time, which was the Lotus press release from when they worked on the engine.
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8vcorsa
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that would be good if you could post it up here if you find it matey
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philip2
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porting isnt 'that'cheap and i know i dont charge near what other people do either. cams you would run a 260/264 duration any bigger and ull be bending valves.
do you ever go to that meet thing in bagillt?
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8vcorsa
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yeah the petrol heads cafe yeah i go there just look for a black corsa b with a white rear bumper and morettes and mhws on
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8vcorsa
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are these good ones >>>>>>> http://www.pipercams.co.uk/pipercams/www/product_nav.php?type=C&cat=CM&man=28&engine=116
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Linch
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160bhp is achievable on a standard x16xe with just tb's I have done it. Standard management is a killer of the engines along with the inlet as said above.
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8vcorsa
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yeah how much are tb's though
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philip2
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£2k or so all done or there abouts.
ive got bike carbs on my c16xe so will show you when its all done if want. would be cheaper than tbs but should give good gains
oh and i can supply newman cams cheaper than what you would pay for piper and there alot better too
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8vcorsa
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ill have to come up and see you 1day matey and have you got any pics 
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philip2
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check my project thread now, just put a ton of pics up
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8vcorsa
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thats a good project u got going mattey
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8vcorsa
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thats a good project u got going matey
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