chrisritch
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Is the engine in the Cooper S the same as the Cooper but only with a S/Charger (or Turbo depending on age?)
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ed
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They are both variants of the same Citroen/Peugeot engine.
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chrisritch
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Originally posted by ed
They are both variants of the same Citroen/Peugeot engine.
didnt know cit/pug had anything to do with them 
does the s/c from the S fit on the cooper engine without massive massive work lol
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ed
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The supercharged engines are based on the predecessor of the turbo engines and there are significant differences between the forced and na engines so a simple bolt on job is out the question...
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chrisritch
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so complete engine switch would be easier?
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DaveyLC
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You want to upgrade to the S engine? IF so you'll need management too which also (as its a modern car) means replacing and re-programming all the other bits, its cheaper and simpler to buy a Cooper S.
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Edd
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They are both variants of the same Citroen/Peugeot engine.
its a psa/bmw collaboration
my 207 gti has the same engine in it as the cooper s
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Rich H
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Just get a Cooper S - will be easier, cheaper to do and cheaper on insurance. Although they are far from cheap to insure!
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chrisritch
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Originally posted by Rich H
. Although they are far from cheap to insure!
theres the problem lol
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Rich H
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And bolting a supercharger on to a normal Cooper is far from cheap too! Although from what I remember, we had an argument about your "forgetfulness" for declaring mods to insurance at the beginning of the year!
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chrisritch
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And bolting a supercharger on to a normal Cooper is far from cheap too! Although from what I remember, we had an argument about your "forgetfulness" for declaring mods to insurance at the beginning of the year!
tbf the likeliness of me buying a charger is slim to none  just wondering what the possibilities are. I forgot everyone tells their insurance everything
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LeeM
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quote:
Originally posted by Edd
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Originally posted by ed
They are both variants of the same Citroen/Peugeot engine.
its a psa/bmw collaboration
my 207 gti has the same engine in it as the cooper s
depends on the age doesnt it? early ones that had a sueprcharger didnt use the psa engine i didnt think
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chrisritch
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Also, Rich, what do you think of your Mini? whats it like to live with etc?
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Edd
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quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
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Originally posted by Edd
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Originally posted by ed
They are both variants of the same Citroen/Peugeot engine.
its a psa/bmw collaboration
my 207 gti has the same engine in it as the cooper s
depends on the age doesnt it? early ones that had a sueprcharger didnt use the psa engine i didnt think
Yep only the the newer turbo ones are the shared engine
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Rich H
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Also, Rich, what do you think of your Mini? whats it like to live with etc?
I do declare everything, and pay a fair premium for it, that's why I get fcuked off that others don't!
Apart from the fact I've had to fork out near on £2k to fix some quite pricey components on it, I love it - best car I've owned for definite. Just a shame that it has the BMW price tag for maintenance and running costs lol.
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chrisritch
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yeah i know what you mean mate. im looking at them as more 'grown up' cars anyway so mods would be minimal.
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chrisritch
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Originally posted by chrisritch
Also, Rich, what do you think of your Mini? whats it like to live with etc?
I do declare everything, and pay a fair premium for it, that's why I get fcuked off that others don't!
Apart from the fact I've had to fork out near on £2k to fix some quite pricey components on it, I love it - best car I've owned for definite. Just a shame that it has the BMW price tag for maintenance and running costs lol.
whats fuel consumption like mate?
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Corsa_Sport21
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Even just a Cooper will be a massive step up from a 1.2 Corsa.
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chrisritch
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Even just a Cooper will be a massive step up from a 1.2 Corsa.
with the snow and ice im sure ive got to work quicker walking!
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Rich H
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32mpg if driven very carefully, around 250 - 270 miles to a tank of £50 - £55 V-Power  lol. Fuel light comes on from just under 1/4 tank left
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ed
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quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
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Originally posted by Edd
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Originally posted by ed
They are both variants of the same Citroen/Peugeot engine.
its a psa/bmw collaboration
my 207 gti has the same engine in it as the cooper s
depends on the age doesnt it? early ones that had a sueprcharger didnt use the psa engine i didnt think
The supercharged engines are a reminiscence of the mess Rover managed to make of marketing and selling this car.
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chrisritch
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Originally posted by Rich H
32mpg if driven very carefully, around 250 - 270 miles to a tank of £50 - £55 V-Power lol. Fuel light comes on from just under 1/4 tank left
thats not too bad really i suppose. a standard Cooper must be a bit more frugal then. You would not believe how much fuel this 1.2 8v uses  so im sure it wont affect me too much
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IvIarkgraham
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. Although they are far from cheap to insure!
theres the problem lol
i was expecting that!
dont be a cunt, if you cant afford to insure it properly dont do it
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chrisritch
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Originally posted by IvIarkgraham
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Originally posted by chrisritch
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Originally posted by Rich H
. Although they are far from cheap to insure!
theres the problem lol
i was expecting that!
dont be a cunt, if you cant afford to insure it properly dont do it
which i have said i the chances are slim to none anyway. get off your fucking high horse
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Rich H
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Proper Cooper S's are still quite considerably cheaper to insure than the JCW version too.
About £300 in some cases - I was able to get quotes of £650ish for a standard Cooper S, 5 years NCB, 23 etc.
I eventually ended up with Greenlight who will insure me for £797.50 a year with the JCW upgrade declared.
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