N90ATH
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Right just looking at a Lil project so this is just a general discussion about possibly turboing a 1.6
Now main thing is cost is it worth it for something a Lil bit different or is a let a better option.
Now obviously buying a let with everything and a conversion kit etc and I've got 200bhp but works out quite expensive.
With a 1.6 I will need to change pistons and conrods, new manifold to take a turbo something like t25 with external wastegate, inletanifol to help at higher revs, possibly cams and a nice ecu with remap. Then things like oils lines etc. Frontera intercooler a gd choice?
Just weighing up pros and cons
Done the xe route already and want something different.
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BarnshaW
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surely all the money u spend on the bits for a 1.6 you could just buy a c20let and have a faster standard engine with more potential?
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scottyp1989
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tbh if your goin to that extent with it your not goin to far off let money anyway
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apt1986
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Why not try the x18xe1 and turbo that?
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N90ATH
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See this is what I'm thinking bout just throwing a let in her as is bout same sorta money to begin with but was thinking staying small block
And thought a bout a x18xe but after reading a few posts of mig and other forums ppl recommend not to do it something bout the stoke and rod angles when on boost around 6000 rpm or something lol
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MarkSport
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quote:
Originally posted by apt1986
Why not try the x18xe1 and turbo that?
exactly my thoughts. there was one on pistonheads aswell (engine that is)
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apt1986
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quote:
Originally posted by N90ATH
See this is what I'm thinking bout just throwing a let in her as is bout same sorta money to begin with but was thinking staying small block
And thought a bout a x18xe but after reading a few posts of mig and other forums ppl recommend not to do it something bout the stoke and rod angles when on boost around 6000 rpm or something lol
No, not the x18xe, i was talking about the x18xe1. They're both different engines.
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fazza
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corsa Vxr turbo will bolt right onto a x14xe or x16xe head 
Just an idea for you
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MarkSport
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^ not a bad idea.
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fazza
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they often pop up cheap on ebay etc now aswel.
I looked into it before going down the let route on my old corsa. it fits, just need to file a tiny bit of the gasket down
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Mieran
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have to re-route oil filter too iirc to fit vxr turbo
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AlexW
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Its not simple, But I know all the ins and outs of it after having researched it all over and over etc.
Oil filter would need to be moved an the downpipe would need to have a notch for the oil filter relocation adapter, Its right in line with the exhaust from the turbo.
Oil feed would need to be taken from the oil pressure switch, Oil return into the top of the sump (either weld a fitting into a steel sump or tap a fitting into alloy sump).
Air feed into the turbo needs to be thought about, Std VXR intake section will not fit.
Then its fueling, which is up to you, Higher pressure FPR or proper ECU.
Std compression will take a bit of boost, Prob up to about 7psi, although melting would be the main worry.
Whatever else too lol
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N90ATH
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Lol ok sounds like it's not as hard as I first thought and how can I move the oil filter as in big hole in side of block lol
An always gd to know a Vxr turbo fits on lol
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Fad
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I would do it the simplest way by fitting an X18xe and bolting on a Dilabas turbo conersion.
They drive fine deliver the figures too.
[Edited on 26-02-2011 by Fad]
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corsagsigav
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just incase you didnt belive it
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AlexW
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More proof.
And finally, Oil filter issue.
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mikey b
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Ye do it  ill have to see how it goes was thinking of doing it to mine or supercharger. Not a fan of redtops to heavy and iv seen a x14xe on throttle bodys with 185 bhp think its how i might go its the cheepest and easyest
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antnee
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I was talking with FAZ this week about supercharging a 1.6. Can pick up a charger fairly cheap from something like a mini cooper S
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mikey b
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Ye iv herd mini one chargers are a good 1 to go for but quite bulky never done a turbo conversion thow so dont no how hard it would be
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antnee
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They aren't bulky  SC conversions are getting done to a few polos and lupos now, it seems a fairly easy conversion
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antnee
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1.6 Lupo bay with a charger
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mikey b
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Ill have to have a save up then and do some more recerch my m8 just got a rotex supercharger 4 hiz saxo so when he blows it up ill muy it off him what kinda boost do thay produce? Just thinking of the internals
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antnee
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You can run them up to about 10-12 psi I think
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mikey b
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Will the internals cope with that do u think does changing the compresion ratio help?
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Fad
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quote:
Originally posted by antnee
They aren't bulky SC conversions are getting done to a few polos and lupos now, it seems a fairly easy conversion
Yes the Mini charger is pretty bulky in comparison to Rotrex, note how the intake in on the front of that Lupo Engine which makes the conversion easier albeit tight. The problem with the Vauhall engine the throttlebody/intake is at the rear which will give clearance issues. Also remeber the belts have to be accessable so it can be driven.
The only advantage to the mini charger is that its a sealed unit so no need to tap oil feeds to it etc.
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