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Bettley

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Registered: 9th Sep 08
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14th Mar 11 at 09:44

Some of you no i did a track day in my old xe corsa, and it rained all day and the car was rubbish ,

But i have booked one now, in the tigra , and now im thinking is it gona be worse due to weight ?

help guys need some advice how to make it handle better etc

its on fk coilovers on the fornt and lowerd on the back 60mm

mike56gte

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Location: Fife, scotland Drives: Audi S3
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14th Mar 11 at 12:21

have you stripped it?

mike56gte

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14th Mar 11 at 12:23

tyres are a big factor?

could have the best suspension set up but if your rollin on £20 ditch finders you'll not get very far

[Edited on 14-03-2011 by mike56gte]

Ojc

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14th Mar 11 at 12:24

You can't just throw coilovers on it and expect miracles.

What condition are the bushes/top mounts/balljoints/steering components in?

Tyres? Like Mike has said tyres are the most important thing about the cars handling, get some GOOD tyres on.

Bettley

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14th Mar 11 at 12:44

its running toyo proxes all round, all bushes etc are in good con,

its Back end has been striped before it got it,

IvIarkgraham

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14th Mar 11 at 12:46

whiteline rear arb, remove front arb

Bettley

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14th Mar 11 at 12:47

no front anti rollbar anyways

I mean on my 1st trackday in the corsa, the arse end was everywhere

Jack1.6valver

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14th Mar 11 at 12:56

remove front arb? doe this make the front end less stiff resulting in less understeer? still got mine on my valver but never had it out yet to see what steering issues the valver may have!

FAZ

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14th Mar 11 at 12:59

upper and lower arb

tyres

semi soft spring / shocks-40mm all round

in my opnion

[Edited on 14-03-2011 by FAZ]

mike56gte

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14th Mar 11 at 12:59

quote:
Originally posted by Jack1.6valver
remove front arb? doe this make the front end less stiff resulting in less understeer? still got mine on my valver but never had it out yet to see what steering issues the valver may have!

i dont have one on mine jock. does seem to handle well although you need an uprated rear arb for the full benefit.

Scotty C

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14th Mar 11 at 13:20

quote:
Originally posted by Bettley
no front anti rollbar anyways

I mean on my 1st trackday in the corsa, the arse end was everywhere

A rear ARB will make the world of difference.

Steve

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Registered: 30th Mar 02
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14th Mar 11 at 13:22

the arse end was everywhere because you were throwing the car in too fast and lifting off/braking mid corner.

Throttle modulation is key, and dont lift off/brake mid corner

Scotty C

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14th Mar 11 at 13:26

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
the arse end was everywhere because you were throwing the car in too fast and lifting off/braking mid corner.

Throttle modulation is key, and dont lift off/brake mid corner

Excellent bit of advice there.

Fro

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14th Mar 11 at 13:35

STAY COMMITTED.

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14th Mar 11 at 13:36

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
the arse end was everywhere because you were throwing the car in too fast and lifting off/braking mid corner.

Throttle modulation is key, and dont lift off/brake mid corner

Normally the case... but it'll just brake away even at slow speeds if the setup is mince.

My old corsa suspension was gone by the time I sold it. It used to just step out at speed on constant radius corners... mid corner... with no change in speed (i.e no lifting, braking or introduction of power.)

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14th Mar 11 at 13:38

quote:
Originally posted by fro-dizzle
STAY COMMITTED.

yup...

If the rear steps out in a FWD just floor it and steer where you want to go

Used to drive the 205 trackcar in some interesting manners on certain corners.... either by braking into the corner or lifting violently and turning to get the rear lose and car pointing towards the exit

Bettley

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14th Mar 11 at 13:40

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
the arse end was everywhere because you were throwing the car in too fast and lifting off/braking mid corner.

Throttle modulation is key, and dont lift off/brake mid corner

Could of been that, but even if i went slow into the corner it was still a mess

Steve

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14th Mar 11 at 13:40

have all your braking done in straight line

Bettley

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14th Mar 11 at 13:44

yeah before the corner, then go into the corner smoothly

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14th Mar 11 at 13:47

pah.... trail braking is more fun in a shite handling car

richc

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14th Mar 11 at 13:48

Worse thing i did in my old corsa was stripp the back end out. Distribution was all wrong.

Bettley

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14th Mar 11 at 13:51

yeah ii noticed that, i straped to big van wheels in for more weight during the day it was that bad

Scotty C

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14th Mar 11 at 14:09

What about corners that start loose then end up going tight? As you'll have NO choice but to brake mid-corner surely?

McWillster

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14th Mar 11 at 14:12

Braking mid corner is not a complete no no. As said smoothness would be the key in a bend that tightens. Flying in then harking on the brakes is only going to find the back end jerking out.

Steve

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14th Mar 11 at 14:14

hardest corner is that first fucking right hander on the ring gp track, impossible to take that one correctly

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