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Jed D

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Registered: 15th Mar 11
Location: Durham
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23rd Apr 11 at 18:42

hi, just curious to know how many people have declared there conversion and if you haven't are planning on it?

i thought it'd be a decent topic of conversation as im tempted (one day when cash flows good) to do a 20xe conversion but iv never done one before and would it be worth declaring on the log book and/or insurance. i think if i was to do it and not declare i'd probs get a another car/shell, something regd as 1.2 or 1.0l for cheap insurance and tax etc.. as i got a 1.6 and its dear enough as it is

does 2.0l conversions declared even effect tax on a small litre b for example?

BarnshaW

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Registered: 25th Oct 06
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23rd Apr 11 at 18:43

its illegal not to declare it so declare it

Ian W

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Location: Wirral, Merseyside
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23rd Apr 11 at 18:43

quote:
Originally posted by BarnshaW
its illegal not to declare it so declare it

DannyB

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Registered: 6th Feb 08
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23rd Apr 11 at 18:45

It wont be cheap tax and insurance though, as it will be illegal.

Mark.W

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Registered: 3rd Jan 07
Location: County Durham
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23rd Apr 11 at 18:48

My 1.6 16v conversion is all declared to DVLA & my insurers.

Jed D

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Location: Durham
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23rd Apr 11 at 18:55

quote:
Originally posted by Mark.W
My 1.6 16v conversion is all declared to DVLA & my insurers.

and is it any dearer than a normal 1.6 16v mate?

Generation

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Registered: 7th Jul 09
Location: Essex
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23rd Apr 11 at 19:00

Declared my 1.6
Will be declaring 2.0 when its up and running, can't afford it. Don't do it.

If you're intent on doing it, what we say will make no difference, you know you should declare it, thats why you asked.

All thats going to happen is a long thread of shit

Jed D

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Registered: 15th Mar 11
Location: Durham
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23rd Apr 11 at 19:01

so does your road tax go up to?

AlexW

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Registered: 25th Oct 08
Location: Essex
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23rd Apr 11 at 19:14

If its already over 1550cc, the tax class won't change, So it will still be £205 (or whatever they put it up to/going to put it up to)

Jed D

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23rd Apr 11 at 19:18

quote:
Originally posted by AW06
If its already over 1550cc, the tax class won't change, So it will still be £205 (or whatever they put it up to/going to put it up to)

cheers

so would a car converted to a 1.6 be dearer to insure than the same car made standard as a 1.6? if all other details are the same etc..?

0775kieran

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Registered: 28th Apr 10
Location: Bolton, Greater Manchester
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23rd Apr 11 at 19:45

it's up to you on what you do

AlexW

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23rd Apr 11 at 20:26

quote:
Originally posted by JedDy

quote:
Originally posted by AW06
If its already over 1550cc, the tax class won't change, So it will still be £205 (or whatever they put it up to/going to put it up to)

cheers

so would a car converted to a 1.6 be dearer to insure than the same car made standard as a 1.6? if all other details are the same etc..?

A converted (Thus Modified) car will always be more to insure than a Standard one.

Jambo

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23rd Apr 11 at 20:32

quote:
Originally posted by JedDy

quote:
Originally posted by AW06
If its already over 1550cc, the tax class won't change, So it will still be £205 (or whatever they put it up to/going to put it up to)

cheers

so would a car converted to a 1.6 be dearer to insure than the same car made standard as a 1.6? if all other details are the same etc..?

In theory yes.

Will depend company to company though.

Seeming how cheap these cars are now, you would be mental to convert one IMO

AlexW

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Registered: 25th Oct 08
Location: Essex
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23rd Apr 11 at 20:43

I agree, Unless the car has already had a lot of work done to it.

Although finding a 1.6 that isnt rotten isnt easy now.

Mark.W

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Registered: 3rd Jan 07
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23rd Apr 11 at 22:53

quote:
Originally posted by JedDy

quote:
Originally posted by Mark.W
My 1.6 16v conversion is all declared to DVLA & my insurers.

and is it any dearer than a normal 1.6 16v mate?

Nope dont think so everything declared £700 tpft and tax is the same as any other 1.6 £205 for the year.

Thats with brentacre btw.

djgritt

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Registered: 1st Nov 07
Location: Dorset Drives: Focus ST / Hyundai i20N
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24th Apr 11 at 00:28

Mines been changed from a 1400 to an 1800

Insurance area all aware - that combined with a big list of other things including a Cage, added £150 to my policy price when I renewed it

Currently in the process of making the changes with the DVLA to get the logbook corrected and the correct Tax band sorted

Ian

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24th Apr 11 at 00:41

quote:
Originally posted by JedDy
so would a car converted to a 1.6 be dearer to insure than the same car made standard as a 1.6? if all other details are the same etc..?

There would be situations where it's comparable but the major problem is that most insurers will not be interested in covering such a car and will either quote more or not quote at all.

If it's pre-2001 then the tax band will change if the car was below 1549cc to start with.

Prices here - http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524

You won't get many people on here who will advise to not declare it.

davcohen

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24th Apr 11 at 03:41

anyways by not declaring it your insurance will be void so your not exactly going to be saving money, you will actually be paying money to an insurance company who wont pay in the event of an accident

Alex_Rally

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Registered: 6th Sep 09
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24th Apr 11 at 07:15

fuck it man dont declare it just dont crash lol
there is any amount of un declared conversions floating about, have a look on bay , pistonheads ect and see how many of them say " still 1.2 on log book ... "
very few have been changed cos its a fuck on and costs money in short term.

jaybee91

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Registered: 4th Aug 09
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24th Apr 11 at 08:12

quote:
Originally posted by geordie_corsa
fuck it man dont declare it just dont crash lol
there is any amount of un declared conversions floating about, have a look on bay , pistonheads ect and see how many of them say " still 1.2 on log book ... "
very few have been changed cos its a fuck on and costs money in short term.

Eddx14xe

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Registered: 12th Jan 10
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24th Apr 11 at 08:33

Just because it says 1.2 on log book, doesnt mean they didnt tell the insurance company about the engine change. Declare it properly, would be easier to sell aswel. Ive been looking at buying one and as soon as it says its not declared it puts me off

Cole

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24th Apr 11 at 08:47

quote:
Originally posted by geordie_corsa
fuck it man dont declare it just dont crash lol
there is any amount of un declared conversions floating about, have a look on bay , pistonheads ect and see how many of them say " still 1.2 on log book ... "
very few have been changed cos its a fuck on and costs money in short term.

You really don't mean that do you

Jed D

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Registered: 15th Mar 11
Location: Durham
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24th Apr 11 at 08:54

quote:
Originally posted by Ian

quote:
Originally posted by JedDy
so would a car converted to a 1.6 be dearer to insure than the same car made standard as a 1.6? if all other details are the same etc..?
There would be situations where it's comparable but the major problem is that most insurers will not be interested in covering such a car and will either quote more or not quote at all.

If it's pre-2001 then the tax band will change if the car was below 1549cc to start with.

Prices here - http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524

You won't get many people on here who will advise to not declare it.

cheers ian, but i quote -

Cars registered before 1 March 2001 (based on engine size)

6 months rate Not over 1549cc = £71.50

i had a 1999 astra g with a 14xe engine standard but 6 months came up at £99

sorry i know its slightly off subject but i think thats wrong information

Eddx14xe

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24th Apr 11 at 09:48

My 1998 x14xe corsa is £68.75 :S

djgritt

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Registered: 1st Nov 07
Location: Dorset Drives: Focus ST / Hyundai i20N
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24th Apr 11 at 09:58

quote:
Originally posted by JedDy

quote:
Originally posted by Ian

quote:
Originally posted by JedDy
so would a car converted to a 1.6 be dearer to insure than the same car made standard as a 1.6? if all other details are the same etc..?
There would be situations where it's comparable but the major problem is that most insurers will not be interested in covering such a car and will either quote more or not quote at all.

If it's pre-2001 then the tax band will change if the car was below 1549cc to start with.

Prices here - http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524

You won't get many people on here who will advise to not declare it.

cheers ian, but i quote -

Cars registered before 1 March 2001 (based on engine size)

6 months rate Not over 1549cc = £71.50

i had a 1999 astra g with a 14xe engine standard but 6 months came up at £99

sorry i know its slightly off subject but i think thats wrong information

It's not wrong information - it's the current pricing as of 01/04/11

A <1549cc Car, on the pre 2001 rates, has never had a rate of £99 for 6 months either.

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