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mex
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2nd Jul 11 at 19:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I have got a c20se r, not many of the engines around they where in the astra gte mk2 (500 of them ) when i bought the engine it came with a standard ecu and loom from the astra, from a read up you cant use the astra loom as there is wires missing and no fuel pump relay.
i was wondering if anyone has done this or have a link to a project of someone who has?
Im thinking i can use the c20seh loom and ecu ? as it has no lambda same as the c20ser

cheers

[Edited on 02-07-2011 by mex]
N3CRO
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I thought all the GTE's came with C20XE's.
Whats different about this engine?
I'm intrigued.
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2nd Jul 11 at 19:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
its the same base as a c20seh ( 8v )
here is a list of the 2.0 engine available

C20NE (115BHP)
20SE (123BHP) - Rare as fook
20SEH (130BHP)
C20XE ("red-top" - 150BHP) - F18 or F20 5-speed
20XE (156BHP)
C20LET (Turbo - 204BHP) - F28 4x4 5-speed X20XEV (135 BHP) - F18 5-speed
C20SER (135 BHP) - F18 or F20 5-speed

taken from another website, i know the comperssion ratio is different as is the cames,
i just need to find out which loom i can use and what car to get it from as there is not alot of gte's around.

Calibra / cav sri maybe ?


[Edited on 02-07-2011 by mex]
martyn_1.4
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sorry for a noob question but is there a c20xe and a 20xe engine? or is it just early and late type 'redtops' just see differant power outputs there
Stuart H
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C20xe has a cat and 20xe didn't iirc
mex
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anyone have any ideas ?
sc0ott
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Did they do a T20SER engine?
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mex my ser has no lambda it may be a cser or se r i can look cus engine is just laying on floor my loom and ecu just plugs on everything then has perm live goin to batt and fuel pump relay is all there and that if u want me to find out let me no
Gary
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quote:
Originally posted by sc0ott
Did they do a T20SER engine?



Why T?

If your thinking about a turbo 8v then no.

The first letter refers for the emissions iirc. The number for displacement then I can't remember the rest apart from T is turbo and H is turbo also, I think.

This a giude in every total vauxhall.
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Guide here

http://www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread.php?41956-Guide-to-engine-codes


Copy and paste to FAQ imo
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quote:
Originally posted by sribaby
mex my ser has no lambda it may be a cser or se r i can look cus engine is just laying on floor my loom and ecu just plugs on everything then has perm live goin to batt and fuel pump relay is all there and that if u want me to find out let me no


yea if you dont mind mate, i have found out that an ne loom and ecu will not work due to having a lambda sensor and the c20seh / ser has not got one.
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So according to that your SER has an increased output somehow.

Also, nobleone, earlier GTEs were 8v's.
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quote:
Originally posted by Gary
So according to that your SER has an increased output somehow.

Also, nobleone, earlier GTEs were 8v's.


Good point, I did know that, just not thinking before I speak
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quote:
Originally posted by Gary
So according to that your SER has an increased output somehow.

Also, nobleone, earlier GTEs were 8v's.


good information to have that, i wonder what the increased output actually is hopefully once i find a loom and ecu i can give it a blast down the airstrip and see what happens
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Put it on bodies and management or carbs.
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Increased output is supposedly a different cam and therefore a different ecu/map. An se can and ecu should see it running.
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i have the original ser ecu, might try an seh loom with the proper ecu first just out of interest.
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quote:
Originally posted by Gary
quote:
Originally posted by sc0ott
Did they do a T20SER engine?



Why T?

If your thinking about a turbo 8v then no.

The first letter refers for the emissions iirc. The number for displacement then I can't remember the rest apart from T is turbo and H is turbo also, I think.

This a giude in every total vauxhall.


I knew they never, was just wanting to see if anyone would click on.
T20SER - TOSER, lol
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