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Author Anyone got experience of Lexus IS220D?
Tom
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1st Dec 11 at 13:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm on the look out for a new car, my current car is on it's last legs so I may have to get something in the next few weeks/month rather than as planned in Feb/March. Seen these are pretty cheap considering the age, and Lexus has a decent reputation? Anything worth looking out for?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201137415025569/sort/priceasc/usedcars/price-from/5000/price-to/7000/make/lexus/page/1/radius/10/postcode/ch459lb?logcode=p#dealerProfileSection

MatthewR
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I had the old version for a while Tom, couldnt fault it!! Thats a whole lot of car for £6.5k!!!!!!!
Ben J
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My Dads mate had one as a company car and thought it was the dogs bollocks.

Personally I think they are a poor mans Merc. But then i'm a badge whore.

[Edited on 01-12-2011 by Ben J]
CORSA NUT
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WELL

having worked for Lexus i can honestly say they are one of the poorest cars EVER made well known in the industry. Shit MPG..no power and more faults that you would ever believe! Not to mention the engine failures due to carbon build up. Sure if it's under warrently fine but even if it has been done they replace the parts with the SAME ones instead of rectifying the problem so it will only happen again.

The IS diesel is the thorn in Lexus's side. Otherwise they are probably the best car maker (reliable/quility) in the world.
CORSA NUT
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Oh and if you even consider buying a car from the Prenton Motor Company i will personally find you and slap you silly kid
BYRON
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As above. Well received at launch back in 2006 with solid values but corsa nut summed it up well as above
CORSA NUT
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Yeah don't get me wrong...i've driven every type of IS and obviously the ISF is amaizing..the 250 is okay in F sport form but the diesel was a fuck up from day one and rushed. Hence why Lexus will never make a diesel again.
CORSA NUT
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If you can stretch to it get an older GS 450h hybrid. They are brilliant cars and i was minutes away from buying a great example. They are seriously quick and give good ish MPG and feel like a 50K car even with 70K miles under there belts.

Right colour combo is a must though.





[Edited on 01-12-2011 by CORSA NUT]
Tom
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Cheers Mr. Nut and the others who offered a response. Back to the drawing board, I want something grown up and newish. I've noticed the E90 saloons are getting quite cheap now, but they are a bit dull, S40's are pretty cheap too.

BTW what's up with them lot in prenton? Never even heard of them before.



[Edited on 01-12-2011 by Tom]
Tom
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Anyone from up here got any views on Wavertree car company too? They seem to have some decent cars in. I may just go to fords of winsford or somewhere though and get one on HP.
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All i can say is try the Mitchel Group in Ellesmere Port mate. If you see a car you like there let me know and i'll put you in touch with one of the (good) salesman.

Prenton Motor Company are mate
Tom
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Fair enough.

Just looking at the website now, do they do decent HP deals at your place?
Tom
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Hmmmm:: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201142422180439/sort/priceasc/usedcars/price-to/8000/model/159/make/alfa_romeo/radius/100/postcode/ch459lb/page/2?logcode=p
CORSA NUT
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I'm not there anymore fella but they bend over backwards to sort finance etc
Ben J
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I looked at 159's. At that age and price they've lost all their money so you are safe but I backed out because I was looking at nearly new and depreciationwas ridiculous!

Go for a Ti not a Lusso tho.

[Edited on 01-12-2011 by Ben J]
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom
Anyone from up here got any views on Wavertree car company too? They seem to have some decent cars in. I may just go to fords of winsford or somewhere though and get one on HP.


I remember my dad buying a few cars over the years from Wavertree car company if that's same place i'm thinking of they have been going years.
Matt L
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test drove one so cant really give a fair comment but i didnt like it gearbox was very soft and felt like it took ages to go between gears, wasnt quick at all felt very very lifeless.

i did have the petrol one for half a day though and that wanst too bad again felt very under powered but was alot better than the derv.
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*I have never driven one*

But the early ones are suppose to have a stupidly long gear ratios which makes them flat as fook.
Tom
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben J
I looked at 159's. At that age and price they've lost all their money so you are safe but I backed out because I was looking at nearly new and depreciationwas ridiculous!

Go for a Ti not a Lusso tho.

[Edited on 01-12-2011 by Ben J]


I'm not sure if I can stretch to a TI, they are lovely looking things but even though it's lost most of it's money I'd still be wary of it breaking and losing money hand over fist with every year.

I really don't want to spend a penny on my current hack but unless I save a bit more I won't be able to afford something I really want. If I had the money I'd probably try and get something like this:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3463853.htm

Or this:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3149193.htm

I don't think either of those would lose as much money as the Alfa in the next 3 years, back to the drawing board
Tom
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quote:
Originally posted by CORSA NUT
I'm not there anymore fella but they bend over backwards to sort finance etc


Shame they've not got anything I fancy!!

quote:
Originally posted by Ian W
quote:
Originally posted by Tom
Anyone from up here got any views on Wavertree car company too? They seem to have some decent cars in. I may just go to fords of winsford or somewhere though and get one on HP.


I remember my dad buying a few cars over the years from Wavertree car company if that's same place i'm thinking of they have been going years.


This place: http://www.wavertreecarcentre.co.uk/

They always seem to have decent cars in, did he find them ok to deal with/have any issues with said cars?!
Tom
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quote:
Originally posted by Matt L
test drove one so cant really give a fair comment but i didnt like it gearbox was very soft and felt like it took ages to go between gears, wasnt quick at all felt very very lifeless.

i did have the petrol one for half a day though and that wanst too bad again felt very under powered but was alot better than the derv.


quote:
Originally posted by richc
*I have never driven one*

But the early ones are suppose to have a stupidly long gear ratios which makes them flat as fook.


I think I'm sold on not buying one, thanks for the input
Nath
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Some nice choices. My next car will be along the same lines, need a 'grown up' car. I was shocked to see how cheap 53/54 plate A4 convertibles were these days!
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they are not very good on juice at all. engines are poo
Tom
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
Some nice choices. My next car will be along the same lines, need a 'grown up' car. I was shocked to see how cheap 53/54 plate A4 convertibles were these days!


I couldn't bring myself to buy the older shape A4 convertible, but I'd love a newer one, can be had from £11kish (£10k at a push for a bit of a dog). All about the money

Have you still got the astra?
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*I have drove one*

Always changing gear, no top end power from 5th-6th..gutless engine and gearbox..not a real 'quite' diesel either..power consumption..

Endless other problems too, i.e recalls -: such as sticky caliper, dashboard creeks, fuel line, steering rack etc..

BUT...plenty of car and toys esp SE-L MM spec model.

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