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Rob B
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18th Jan 12 at 20:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hi guys,

I've received a court summons for supposedly not sending the V5C to the DVLA.

The car was sold in June 2011 and I 100% sent the V5C back 1st class post with the new keeper details.

Has anyone else been in this situation? It says I can plead guilty and not have to attend court but also says the cost could be upto £1000.

Personally I normally avoid anything like this even when in the right by paying, however in this case and the fact it's the DVLA I feel like fighting it.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,

Rob
VegasPhil
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18th Jan 12 at 20:06   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Why should you plead guilty if you did as you should have?

It's not your fault they haven't received paperwork you sent.


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Ian
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18th Jan 12 at 20:07   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Happened to me except it wasn't a court summons, it was just a fine, I just called them and told them it was done and never heard anything else.
Rob B
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18th Jan 12 at 20:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

This is what i'm thinking, if it was £30 i'd pay it and be done with it, have to much going to mess around with money robbing companies.

From what I can find the moment I drop that V5C in the post box i've forefilled my legal obligation in regards to notifying them of a change of keeper.

IT says:

Statement of facts:

On the 01/06/2011 the defendant having previously kept motor vehicle ******* failed on the change of keeper of the vehicle, to notify the secretary of state, forthwith, as required by regulations.

The maximum penalty £1000
The prosecutor will ask for a minimum £60 contribution towards legal costs.

[Edited on 18-01-2012 by Rob B]
VegasPhil
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18th Jan 12 at 20:12   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Exactly. Tell them that. If its an issue they can argue in court and waste more of their money.


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Ben G
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18th Jan 12 at 20:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

must have 'got lost in the post'.

phone the dvla up, explain the situation and see what they say.

seems a bit harsh.
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18th Jan 12 at 20:17   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

mine got lost in the post too. i rang up paid £60 and that was that.
Rob B
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18th Jan 12 at 20:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by VrsTurbo
mine got lost in the post too. i rang up paid £60 and that was that.


Did you get a court summons?

I've had no details for paying a fine, the first I've known about this is a summons.
Brett
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18th Jan 12 at 20:20   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Do they send out reminders or anything to say you've not done it? Seems a bit harsh with the first letter being a summons to court
Rob B
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18th Jan 12 at 20:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If they have sent any reminders I haven't received them.

It seems a few people when searching on google also had a summons with no reminder.
Rob B
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18th Jan 12 at 20:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My other problem is, I'm at Thruxton all that week testing, I assume they can't reschedule.

Bunch of P***K's
Matty SRi
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18th Jan 12 at 20:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Dont turn up, it will get sorted in your absence, and you will get a £130(ish) fine
fred7
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18th Jan 12 at 20:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

happened to me with my bike, had a copper come and post a court summons, phoned them and said it was just a fine of £125. the V5 was def sent because was done with my companys post bag
Rob B
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18th Jan 12 at 20:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

So you rang the DVLA office who had issued the summons and paid or rang the court?

Reason I ask is I have 4 days work away that week and rather pay a small fine than loose out on that.
Matty SRi
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18th Jan 12 at 20:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I just left mine, got a letter saying how much the fine was, got a card and went into a shop and paid it off as and when i wanted to
fred7
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18th Jan 12 at 20:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no i had to phone the police who put me in contact with my local court, had to post the cheque to the court because they wouldnt accept it off me or let me put it thru the letter box,
VrsTurbo
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18th Jan 12 at 20:43   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Rob B
quote:
Originally posted by VrsTurbo
mine got lost in the post too. i rang up paid £60 and that was that.


Did you get a court summons?

I've had no details for paying a fine, the first I've known about this is a summons.


yea got a summons rang the number and said it got lost and offered me to pay 60
Matt L
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18th Jan 12 at 20:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

stupid question... if you never notified them of changing owners... how do they know

also just give them a call and tell them what happened (dvla)
Matty SRi
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18th Jan 12 at 21:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Matt L
stupid question... if you never notified them of changing owners... how do they know

also just give them a call and tell them what happened (dvla)


I assume it's when the new owner applies for the log book
sand-eel
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19th Jan 12 at 00:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Happened to my dad except the dealer never changed the name when he sold a car to them, he got the fine...there is no arguing with the DVLA they won't listen.
Jimbothebarbarian
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19th Jan 12 at 01:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

This is why I always send recorded now. Got stung with a fine years ago. They seem a little harsher these days though!
Rob B
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20th Jan 12 at 12:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just for reference,

I rang up, told them i forefilled my legal obligation and how I did so.

They're dropping the case and all charges.
MatthewR
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20th Jan 12 at 12:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well done mate

WANKERS!!
Robin
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20th Jan 12 at 13:14   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I had a letter the other day asking me to tax a scrapped car. I proved it was scrapped and they still tried to fine me so I declared it SORN again. Stupid system.

 
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