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nathan6490
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hi all was out tonight with my mate in his corolla and a lad pulled up with a xe'd corsa and stopped and had a chat he asked what brake my mates car was so we told him 220 so he blurts out only 16 more than mine then so i asked what he had done to it and the usual answer accured its been "cammed and chipped" oh and he said its also got a heat wrapped manifold, i told him no way he was running 204 bhp but he was having none of it, i am right in thinking that that figure is impossible from just a cam and chip? just want to make sure i wasnt making a complete idiot of myself arguein the case
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Mate i have had a fair few arguments over bhp with jdm people sayin thier standard 1.6 civic wpuld destroy xe corsas, if they dont belive ya words just prove it on the strip and they will soon shut up
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i no mate worse thing was he was sayin it destroys evos and everything, i no there quick but thats taking it a bit far specially gaining 54 bhp from cams and a chip, im not even sure what gains u would get from cams and a chip my estimated was like 20 or somethin like that thats y i asked just to make sure i was right lol
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The only way to be 100% shore is to get it on the rollers ans have a print out to prove, get the lad to come to next rolling road day
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fast road is the highest lift cam you can fit to a redtop without pocketed pistins so about 8-10bhp there. and your lucky if you get 6-7bhp from a chipped ecu on an xe. that what superchip qouted me for bhp gains.

probably 160bhp maybe 165bhp on a good healthy engine.

[Edited on 21-01-2012 by mike56gte]
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21st Jan 12 at 03:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

even less than i thought, didnt think them gains were possible cheers for clearin it up for me mate
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21st Jan 12 at 07:28   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My old engine had 48mm throttle bodies, cams, overbore and it only made 188bhp.
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My 1st XE made 169 @ the fly.
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my Xe made 204 bhp - had a bit more done to it than cams and a chip

throttle bodies
blydenstien head
cams
simpson race exhaust and manifold
440cc injectors
omex managment -
blah blah blah blah

so yeh- cams and a 'chip' i would say 160bhp tops
Adam-D
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he destroys evo's?

hmmm, i would like to embarass him then

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21st Jan 12 at 11:50   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Dreamer You get them all the time, for every make of car. I just leave them to it these days and don't waste my time.
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quote:
Originally posted by craig-dodd
Mate i have had a fair few arguments over bhp with jdm people sayin thier standard 1.6 civic wpuld destroy xe corsas, if they dont belive ya words just prove it on the strip and they will soon shut up


I'd hazard a guess that an EK9 would win over a 1/4 mile tbh But aye, that's not uncommon around here either. I know a healthy XE would beat an EK4 VTi because they are fucking heavy.
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Tbh Eck, over a 1/4 of a mile, there wouldn't be alot in it between an EK9 and an XE Corsa. I reckon it would be down to the driver.
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I know there won't be much in it, Nik. But the LSD will help the Type R off the line quicker. I think it'll be closer on the move than from a standing start tbh.
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cheers guys i thought he was being delusional, went a meet in southport tonight and he was there and had a play with him on the way home and theres no way its 204, also like to mention bigrons car which was there what an aninal that car is in real life absolutally mint!
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back few years ago mate of a mates corsa with 204 bhp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i1eY2BQvhY
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208 bhp corsa v6 mates which is now a 3.2 front 3.0 back 4wd but this as he got the v6 put in
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjJ-WZp4eGg&list=UUkQBVjvBsrrl7lwUCb7FtKA&index=8&feature=plcp
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quote:
Originally posted by sribaby
back few years ago mate of a mates corsa with 204 bhp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i1eY2BQvhY



Whats his name?? Im pretty sure the owner of that is on here.
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Birchieboy on here??
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no idea mate aint seen the kid in years
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quote:
Originally posted by Eck
I know there won't be much in it, Nik. But the LSD will help the Type R off the line quicker. I think it'll be closer on the move than from a standing start tbh.


I had a wee play with one on the motorway one night, on that night in that situation I was pulling on him. Was very close but I had a definite advantage so I'd say you're right in what you're saying
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LOL the amount of times iv wotched that on youtube, im going to be running ported and polished head, kent AST 1612 cams, twin dellorto dhla 45 carburettors, 2.5 inch manifold and 2.5 inch stainless front to back, and have it all set up on a rolling road and even then i'l be happy with 180, near to 190 at a push. so 204 on cams and chip isnt very true

[Edited on 24-01-2012 by harvey_1066]
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My xe makes over 200 at the fly but it has bodies aftermarket management big msnifold omega pocketed piston steel rods full arps ported and polished head double valve springs. and vernier pully on xe cams and a billet fly wheel

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