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taylorboosh
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4th Feb 12 at 12:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
can this be done?

this is a conventional imp set up


this is what i plan to do


im just really wondering, its called a trailing arm because its meant to trail imo? how would running it in reverse effect handling and the safety aspect?


if i cant reverse the rear suspension set up i will need to make some sort of subframe/custom set up...

the other way would be to adapt some corsa hubs to use a custom subframe which id bet isnt all that simple. to lock them off ect





[Edited on 04-02-2012 by john-d]
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Im no use whatsover, but will go like fuck with an xe fitted
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X16xe and throttle bodies not a redtop
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will an x16 bolt to an f20?
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I would of thought it wouldnt be a good idea.
Would the forces be pulling it away from the body??
Rather that going towards the body if you see what I mean.

Space frame?

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Semi frame and bolt in cradle..

Should add I have the gearbox from the car the x16 came from. The f20 was when I made the example and was planning a c20
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Looking at where the engine is and the angle of shafts I don't think you should do it.

What's wrong with the engine over the rear wheels?

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would give me 5 reverse gears
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the shafts would be made to run near enough the same as they do on a corsa with corsa hubs on a cradle type set up i think so far..

this is my thread about mounting in the rear.. its just too complicated for me to do, even though it would be amazing
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=626624
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I didn't mean like that.
Have a look at a vx220 set up. Thats what I'm on about. Should be able to use the imps trailing arms the correct way round.
Height may be an issue though.

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On google images this looks like it may help.
http://217.8.242.47/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4377
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Do you mean run the engine directly above the wheels? That would be amazing if its possible. I'm leaving stripping underseal for a bit till engines mounted ECT now so it won't be long till progress is made. I will get the engine stripped to what I need for now and then weigh up if that's possible as the standard set up is narrow
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http://mobile.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1040838&r=18801282&hm=68393&mid=68393

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The fact that the axle 'trails' helps it deal with bumps, I can see it being under a lot more stress doing what you're suggesting.

Imagine you had a pencil glued fast to a table - if you were to sit your fingertips on the surface and drag them over the pencil (ie. knuckles first with your fingers 'trailing') they would pass over no problem. Do the same thing whilst angling your hand the other way (ie. palm side up) and it'll 'crash' into the pencil. I don't think the physics of it would work.
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Just infront of the centre of the wheels
If its possible to tilt the engine forward a bit that would be ideal for clearance. Just not sure on the whole oil at front of sump etc. unless you run a dry sump with a cooler in the wing

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Ps john, get some sort of expert involved that you can discuss these things with rather than asking a bunch of IT analysts and the like how to mid mount an engine!
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I'm already a member and am familiar with pats imp.. His is all custom suspension iir
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Is that what I linked?

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Yea the k series jobby. Its pretty awesome tbh.. Vids of it destroying evos ECT.. Just above the front wheels is my plan but my drawings were slightly off
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How about copy phillip2's setup in the rear of his corsa,
Matey on here helped/his dad did it?
Sure it wasn't expensive.
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Robin will know, he has probably planned it for some other car he isn't buying.
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lol 3cm

Has phillip2 got a thread
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The suspension wouldn't work properly if it was no longer trailing. You'd want to build yourself a new subframe to fit the XE to - maybe base it on a Mini engine conversion kit?
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Yea that's what I'll do I think
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http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=510915&highlight=1&pid=7584689#pid7584689

Some where in there mate, most of the bits used are off the shelf from an autograss company, got it saved in my bookmarks on laptop but I'm on my phone, drd autograss I think.

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