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Generation

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26th Feb 12 at 11:23

Fitted my Avo frot coilovers yesterday.

Had them laser aligned etc, and are just so bouncy. I've adjusted the mount in top (to what should be hardest setting) and barely any difference

tom130691

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26th Feb 12 at 11:34

if anything i would have thought they would be to hard then soften up

get stffer springs on them?

Generation

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26th Feb 12 at 11:41

I fitted the 250lb springs. Have 300 here, don't want to pay for laser alignment again. As was £70 with camber ajustment

chris_uk

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26th Feb 12 at 11:56

250lb seems a little low..

I run 375f/450r on the vx which is lighter than the b and i think its about right.

Of cause i dont know whats reccomended for a B

tom130691

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26th Feb 12 at 11:57

why did you fit weaker springs?

you have a c20xe ?
the coil over would have been designed for x16xe weight, need the beefyer springs with extra weight

alan-g-w

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26th Feb 12 at 11:58

20quid for 4 wheel laser alignment up here

Are they brand new or second hand Generation, sounds like a fucked shocker

And you don't need beefier springs, can you tell me the difference in weight between a x/c16xe and a c20xe tom?

[Edited on 26-02-2012 by alan-g-w]

fennyLET

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26th Feb 12 at 12:05

about 20kgs

alan-g-w

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26th Feb 12 at 12:20

Aye, I thought it was nearer 25 actually. I'm not claiming that that extra weight wouldn't affect things but stiffer springs aren't needed as much as they are an improvement. Basically he shouldn't have any problems with standard poundage springs in at all

[Edited on 26-02-2012 by alan-g-w]

Generation

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26th Feb 12 at 12:43

I read somewhere 250 was recommended.

Coilovers, just come back from Avo, having being fully refurbished

tom130691

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26th Feb 12 at 16:15

i always had the impression the redtops were heavy

did you have the rears aswell? stiffen them
if the front are solid and the rears arnt this could cause the bouncing ?

alan-g-w

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26th Feb 12 at 17:12

If it was just an impression maybe you shouldn't act like you know what you're on about. Telling someone that they need to change the springs on their car to heavier ones without actually knowing why is a bit stupid would you not agree?

To anyone that wants to listen... If you don't know, don't talk. The amount that people could actually be fucked up if they listened to this general chat help advice is scary

Generation

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26th Feb 12 at 17:48

The rears are just shocks and springs

Generation

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26th Feb 12 at 17:53

Can we keep this on topic please?

I really would like this sorted

tom130691

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26th Feb 12 at 19:09

quote:
Originally posted by Generation
Can we keep this on topic please?

I really would like this sorted

get stiffer/adjustable rear shocks imo

thegsi

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26th Feb 12 at 19:24

I had 280lb front springs on with coilovers on my Turbo with F28 and they were perfect. Anything heavier is overkill. What engine do you have? Oh and regarding 'bedding in' its total bollocks.

Generation

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26th Feb 12 at 19:29

I have a c20xe

Tbh they don't sit right. In confused by the whole thing.

Handles fine, top mounts are higher inside the bay than they should be too

carl roper

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26th Feb 12 at 19:33

did you wind them all the way down to put the top mounts on or did you have them at the top when you put the top mounts on?

Generation

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26th Feb 12 at 19:43

I wound them down quite abit.

Could get spring on otherwise.

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26th Feb 12 at 19:51

quote:
Originally posted by alan-g-w

To anyone that wants to listen... If you don't know, don't talk. The amount that people could actually be fucked up if they listened to this general chat help advice is scary

Maybe put it in Help zone then?

Back on topic, with my Avos adjusting from soft to hard was hugely noticeable, however you are limited by the spring, I would go for the 300lb springs.

£70 is a bit steep I used to work on a £12 per point of adjustment so £24 for tracking and £48 for tracking and camber on front

Generation

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26th Feb 12 at 19:54

Can someone please explain how should be built up?

I had spring>Avo spring mount>Corsa part>new top mount.

Sound ok?

Generation

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26th Feb 12 at 20:02

thegsi

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26th Feb 12 at 20:08

Somethings wrong there. That cup should sit nice and snug in the chassis leg.

Generation

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26th Feb 12 at 20:12

Yeah, like standard ones.

Any ideas what's gone wrong?

thegsi

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26th Feb 12 at 20:17

Hmm I'm trying but its been a while since I've seen it and hard to tell without looking in person. You obviously swapped all your top mount construction over to the coilover? Is the other side the same? You didnt put an extra bump stop on by anychance?!

alan-g-w

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26th Feb 12 at 20:22

quote:
Originally posted by broster

quote:
Originally posted by alan-g-w

To anyone that wants to listen... If you don't know, don't talk. The amount that people could actually be fucked up if they listened to this general chat help advice is scary

Maybe put it in Help zone then?

Yes, this is what I do when I've got a problem i want advice on.

Changing the rear susension is going to have no effect on the front's stiffness, if it did then all you'd be doing is masking the problem.

By the look of the pics you've either fitted the top mount wrongly or fitted the wrong top mount.

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