grnikolis
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Hi all,
Have a Corsa 93 GSi (C16XE) that failed cam belt and head is gone.
Been told here for a repair that costs more that the car itself so i am looking for either a C16XE head or a C16XE complete engine.
However being open to any other option I would like to ask those of you that know better:
a) besides a C16XE, is any other engine type (X16E, X18XE etc) a direct swap or I have to keep looking for only C16XE ?
b) If a X16XE is found, can I use the current loom and ECU from the C16XE ?
c) as my engine's head is damaged, do I have any other options in looking for a head ? I mean, would a 14XE, 18XE or XEL or any other can work in my block with my ecu BUT NOT with my cams, as one is damaged as well ?
Thank you all in advance,
Nikos
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scottyp1989
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AFAIK you can use the x16 head.
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corsadonk
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The ports are a bit different. but all the bolt patterns are the same.
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grnikolis
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Thank you Scotty.
Cams and ecu remain the same ?
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grnikolis
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quote:
Originally posted by corsadonk
The ports are a bit different. but all the bolt patterns are the same.
Meaning just that the performance will be altered (lowered) or the car would be non-drivable at all or hard to drive ?
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Liam-Wilko
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you could put a full X16XE engine in and fun it from the same loom and ecu ext i ran a x16xe engine from a x14xe loom and ecu 
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corsadonk
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quote:
Originally posted by grnikolis
quote:
Originally posted by corsadonk
The ports are a bit different. but all the bolt patterns are the same.
Meaning just that the performance will be altered (lowered) or the car would be non-drivable at all or hard to drive ?
I don't think you will notice the loss of power. It will be fine with the X16 head.
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Jed D
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get a X16XEL head out of an astra/vectra. ports are slightly different but its the better head
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fazza
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you cannot run a x16xe or x14xe off the current ecu/loom you have. you will need to use the one that comes with the new engine.
C16xe uses AFM whereas x16xe doesnt
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grnikolis
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@Jed D
you mean a X16XEL head will be a direct swap to mine ?
Cams (timing, lift, duration) will be compatible to the ecu (totally stock) that i have ?
thank you
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grnikolis
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@fazza
I am a bit confused m8.
The head is a totally mechanical part, right?
So if i keep the AFM that I know have so that ECU can get the signal it wants, why wouldn't be possible to run a X14/16 head ?
thank you
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grnikolis
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quote:
Originally posted by Liam-Wilko
you could put a full X16XE engine in and fun it from the same loom and ecu ext i ran a x16xe engine from a x14xe loom and ecu
Thanks for your answer.
In that case what about the sensors on the complete X14/16 engines that mine doesn't have so (logically) ecu doesn't support ?
thank you
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fazza
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you can use a x16xe head on your c16xe engine and keep your ecu, loom etc.
You cannot use an x16xe/x14xe engine on your ecu/loom
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grnikolis
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Thank u for the clarification.
I though u were referring to the head not a complete engine.
Cheers
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grnikolis
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quote:
Originally posted by Jed D
get a X16XEL head out of an astra/vectra. ports are slightly different but its the better head
Thank you,
in such case cams, valves, springs etc of the XEL head can be used or need to use mine ?
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grnikolis
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noone ??
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Jed D
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think its all the same mate. as said though ports are slightly different on it though
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grnikolis
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Thanx Jed.
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