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Mark.W
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27th Jun 12 at 19:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Are they any different to the later XE engines and are they anygood?

Got the chance of a one just not sure whether to go for it and replace the X16XE i have in the car at the moment.

[Edited on 30-06-2012 by Mark.W]
Jambo
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27th Jun 12 at 19:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
So far as im aware identical to any other C20XE
Wrighty_1988
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27th Jun 12 at 19:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Putting 'Astra GTE Champion C20XE Engine' in google its says on the wikipedia website that they are the same engine.

The limited-edition "Champion" Astras from 1990 were fitted with the same C20XE "redtop" engines (so called because of their red spark plug cover), along with Connolly Leather interiors.[8]
connollygt30
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They Connolly leather interiors go for silly money
Ian W
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27th Jun 12 at 19:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Just the same as any other redtop.

Out of the three engines I had the later coilpack one from a 93 Calibra ran the best.
Mark.W
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27th Jun 12 at 19:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Are the early ones dizzy?

Sorry just done have a clue about them.It has been removed for the car and has 107k on it,the lad says it's a good healthy engine doesn't tap or smoke
connollygt30
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27th Jun 12 at 19:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I would go for a coilpack one mate
Mark.W
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27th Jun 12 at 20:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by connollygt30
I would go for a coilpack one mate


Are they more reliable & what year did the coil pack engines start on?
connollygt30
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27th Jun 12 at 20:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Im not sure mate,i have had both and prefered the coilpack one
Ian W
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27th Jun 12 at 20:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
If you can you want to buy one you can hear running.

None of them tap or smoke when there being sold
Archie
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27th Jun 12 at 20:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ian W
If you can you want to buy one you can hear running.

None of them tap or smoke when there being sold



None of them will at 80k....
Mark.W
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27th Jun 12 at 20:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Are the c20xe engines worth it now days with them being 20+year old honestly tho?
jameswalshe1990
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27th Jun 12 at 21:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Does he wanna sell the gte champion shell?
Mark.W
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27th Jun 12 at 21:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Doubt it ,it's getting a C20LET fitted.
connollygt30
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27th Jun 12 at 21:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Yes they are worth it XE's are still good fun,best rebuilding them these days though imo
jameswalshe1990
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27th Jun 12 at 21:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Dam been after one for a long time
Mark.W
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27th Jun 12 at 21:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by connollygt30
Yes they are worth it XE's are still good fun,best rebuilding them these days though imo


I don't have the know how or confidence to rebuild one
Darryl H
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27th Jun 12 at 21:36   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Rebuilding them isn't that hard Mark, I didn't know much about it before I did mine but now I'd feel happy doing it

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Nic Barnes
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27th Jun 12 at 23:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Coil pack c20xe was also the best one I ever had.
Corsa_Sport21
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28th Jun 12 at 06:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Buy 1 you can hear/see running.

I wouldn't say rebuilding 1 was a necessity though. No point fixing something that isn't broken. Find a good runner and it will more than likely be fine.

"rebuilt" also gets thrown about alot, quite loosely in most cases. Some people think that changing a few gaskets qualifies as a rebuild so beware when buying.
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i gave up rebuilding one as the parts are just so expensive, you can have much more fun for a lot less money. XE's are over rated anyway....

you could get a pants XE and put it in a corsa and it'll not have much more on the 16xe... obv dependant on how much of a "genuine 80k" engine it is

they've all had the puddens smashed in
Nic Barnes
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If they get a hard life but also get looked after don't see the problem. Too many "knackerd old xe's" stories floating about from uneducated people waffling Internet talk.
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Tbh i would rather take the chance with a used C20XE over a used X16XE. The 1.6 16v seems to be a bit soft bottom end wise. All you hear of on here is about smokey X16's.

In what way are they over-rated Jed?? They are still widely used in alot of Motorsport these days. Can't be that bad surely. Or are you a bit bitter because you never finished your XE build.lol.
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28th Jun 12 at 14:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I'm going with your lol theory Scotland.
Mark.W
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28th Jun 12 at 17:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Think im just going to hang on for one i can hear running for a little more peace of mind.

Would love a LET but will more likely to get even more problems with them.

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