brod99
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Been told about this in work today that modified cars have to have a specail test tO be on the road
Www.pistonheads.com/;s=WVhLHPT0O4gLL9_jhEDndg06/news/default.asp?storyId=26224
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alan-g-w
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We'll see
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Generation
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This again 
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tom130691
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repost
and it wont happen for a million reasons
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Chris1.8SRi
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will never happen, people will always mod their cars.
Police hardly have time at the moment to catch the real criminals now, they're not gonna give a fewk about a kid with a non-standard spoiler ffs
If that ever happens i'll jump out of a plane with no parachute
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possy
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If that ever happens i'll jump out of a plane with no parachute
travis pastrana did
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K 5ive
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and it wont happen for a million reasons
Oh really?  Well when you get laws like out there in Spain where cannot touch the slightest thing on a car, don't say nobody warned you!
Your apathy towards this coming law will be the undoing of car culture in the UK. You modified cars will become worthless overnight when you can't get an MOT on them.
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Gary
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Don't be daft. For nearly ever set of aftermarket alloys sold since they were invented there is a 'modified' car out there wearing them. Are all these coming off the road? No. Don't be silly.
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K 5ive
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Don't be daft. For nearly ever set of aftermarket alloys sold since they were invented there is a 'modified' car out there wearing them. Are all these coming off the road? No. Don't be silly.
It won't happen overnight, it will just be drip fed with little changes here and there coming in under the radar. You already can't tint all your windows of fit HID's and tuning boxes are now on the hit list  Still so sure it's not coming.
Europe doesn't care about little tuning companies and the money they provide to the economy. They just want everything sterile and the same throughout Europe, harmonisation as they call it.
As for the alloys well check out Spain and France and then come back and tell me it won't happen. You are being turned into part of a European super state with less and less say as to what you can do all the time.
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Balling
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Originally posted by K 5ive
As for the alloys well check out Spain and France and then come back and tell me it won't happen.
Lots of modded cars in France and Spain!? 
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Gary
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K 5ive definatly wears a tinfoil hat and thinks the government are reptilians.
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K 5ive
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quote:
Originally posted by Balling
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Originally posted by K 5ive
As for the alloys well check out Spain and France and then come back and tell me it won't happen.
Lots of modded cars in France and Spain!?
Change that to were!
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K 5ive
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K 5ive definatly wears a tinfoil hat and thinks the government are reptilians.
Take the piss and come back in 5 years time when this has all been squeezed through and your tyres have to be exact spec as when your car left the factory. I speak from experience as I live in Spain.
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Balling
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Did anyone actually read the article and/or read/skim the proposition?
The proposition hardly covers modding, but basically states that the quality of vehicle checkups need to meet a certain standard.
Take this from the article:
"the supposition is that any car fitted with a part that's contrary to its original type approval would effectively be outlawed"
The type approval has nothing to do with whether the car has an Irmscher or OEM spoiler or whether the wheels are 16" five-spokes or 18" ten-spokes.
It will affect structural changes to the car, like engine swaps and brake mods. A Corsa isn't type approved for a 2.0 litre engine, hence it's illegal to fit one in most European countries while in some, like Germany, you can get a new type approval, provided you've done the conversion properly.
This is all basic, and really quite reasonable, stuff.
Even then, as the article says, the wording is pretty vague and seems to leave a lot of room for the individual country to adapt the rules.
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Balling
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Lots of modded cars in France and Spain!?
Change that to were!
What are you basing this on? Just have a look at French and Spanish dealer sites. The countries are booming with modded cars of any age.
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K 5ive
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quote:
Originally posted by Balling
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Originally posted by K 5ive
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Originally posted by Balling
Lots of modded cars in France and Spain!?
Change that to were!
What are you basing this on? Just have a look at French and Spanish dealer sites. The countries are booming with modded cars of any age.
A lot of plastic and fibre glass bolt on tat but no mods to engines.
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pow
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Here we go
I'm all for modified cars having to be tested more thoroughly - look at the state of 90% of them!
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pow
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Originally posted by K 5ive
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Originally posted by Balling
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Originally posted by K 5ive
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Originally posted by Balling
Lots of modded cars in France and Spain!?
Change that to were!
What are you basing this on? Just have a look at French and Spanish dealer sites. The countries are booming with modded cars of any age.
A lot of plastic and fibre glass bolt on tat but no mods to engines.
Spanish family friend has a beach buggy with a 1100cc motorbike engine in it. It's registered, legal and insured and he uses it in Menorca. No trouble from police.
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Balling
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Originally posted by K 5ive
A lot of plastic and fibre glass bolt on tat but no mods to engines.
You never spoke about engine mods specifically though.
Actually, you referred to after market alloy wheels specifically, indicating they were illegal in Spain and France. They are not.
Regarding engine mods not many countries in Europe are as liberal with their rules as the UK, so a tightening would make sense. But I don't see the rules will affect anything but engine mods/swaps in your country, if that, and certainly not stuff like wheels and bodykits, as you seem to suggest.
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Balling
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quote:
Originally posted by K 5ive
Well when you get laws like out there in Spain where cannot touch the slightest thing on a car, don't say nobody warned you!
quote:
Originally posted by K 5ive
As for the alloys well check out Spain and France and then come back and tell me it won't happen.
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Originally posted by K 5ive
You modified cars will become worthless overnight when you can't get an MOT on them.
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Originally posted by K 5ive
It won't happen overnight
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Originally posted by K 5ive
your tyres have to be exact spec as when your car left the factory. I speak from experience as I live in Spain.
You're speaking complete bollocks mate!
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K 5ive
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Originally posted by K 5ive
A lot of plastic and fibre glass bolt on tat but no mods to engines.
You never spoke about engine mods specifically though.
indicating they were illegal in Spain and France. They are not.
They are! your vehicle must have the same tyres and wheels as it left the factory. It is printed on the ficha tecnica!
Sure he may have a modified beach buggy but someone had to pay 2500 euros to homologate it or maybe it was brought in by someone moving to the country and importing it. Stuff can get in that way but that is being tightened up on.
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pow
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Must have the same tyres on as it left the factory? Don't chat shit
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K 5ive
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Must have the same tyres on as it left the factory? Don't chat shit
Tyres must be the same spec as when it left the factory! You are the chatting shit as you don't live here and have no idea of the rules here.
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pow
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Right so you've just change what you've said there within 3 posts:
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your vehicle must have the same tyres and wheels as it left the factory
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Tyres must be the same spec as when it left the factory
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K 5ive
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
Right so you've just change what you've said there within 3 posts:
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your vehicle must have the same tyres and wheels as it left the factory
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Tyres must be the same spec as when it left the factory
Tyres are on the wheel so of course it is the same thing it is the overall size you cannot modify. Do I really have to go and get a ficha tecnica and scan it before you believe me?
Whatever, stick your head and the sand. You try to educate people as to what could happen and all you get is piss taking and general apathy. Should have known really.
[Edited on 23-08-2012 by K 5ive]
[Edited on 23-08-2012 by K 5ive]
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