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CORSAguy93
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Registered: 7th Jun 12
Location: Wirral/ Chester Corsa b 1.6 8v, Vectra b 1.8
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1st Nov 12 at 12:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Right, so between me (an idiot) my uncle (mechanic) and my cousin (mechanic). we can not for the life of us figure out why it wont start.

its a post 97 corsa breeze 1.2 8v.

I'll go from the top,
it turns over fine,
it sparks fine,
fuel is being pumped fine,
the battery is very much alive,
it has enough oil
it has enough coolant.

but no start also tried bumping it to no result. does anyone have any ideas? any help is much appreciated.
CORSAguy93
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1st Nov 12 at 12:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

also worth mentioning that when it was working, if it started when it was either cold or wet outside it only fired on 3 cylinders until it warmed up, even with new spark plugs.
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1st Nov 12 at 12:36   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

was anything done prior to it being a non-starter?
CORSAguy93
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1st Nov 12 at 12:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

engine wise nothing major, new water pump a few months back and a halfords ripspeed air filter put on but its been starting dodgey way before that and a japspeed backbox, thats it.
Corsa_Sport21
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1st Nov 12 at 12:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Stupid idea here, but is the timing belt still intact?? And have you checked to make sure the camshaft hasn't snapped?
CORSAguy93
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1st Nov 12 at 12:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I had the timing belt thought too thankfully it was fine. not checked the cam shaft though. will have a look later, im towing it to my uncles garage tonight, this was a last ditch effort to save some pennies
fazza
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1st Nov 12 at 12:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

without sounding like a cunt, if 2 'mechanics' cant figure it out i find it hard to believe the internet will


Are all 4 plugs sparking? Leads on in correct order?

Tried reading for any fault codes?

Crank sensor ok?

theres not alot to the 8v engines
CORSAguy93
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1st Nov 12 at 12:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i know thats the ball ache part of this weve spent ages just guessing, there is nothing that seems wrong, it as if it just doesnt want to start. im thinking its time to put project power under way and source a c20seh.
MatthewR
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1st Nov 12 at 12:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Have you put petrol in
CORSAguy93
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1st Nov 12 at 12:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

pmsl you know funnily enough thats what my mum said. yes...yes i have
MatthewR
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1st Nov 12 at 12:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

good ol mum
CORSAguy93
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1st Nov 12 at 13:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by MatthewR
good ol mum


gotta love mums haha
swill_omnibus
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1st Nov 12 at 13:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

As mentioned I would check that spark plugs and leads are all fine and (leads) in correct order.

Or crank sensor / flywheel sensor (if applicable)?
1L Nick
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1st Nov 12 at 13:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

mate had this on his 1.6 8v an it was 'idle speed control valve'
CORSAguy93
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1st Nov 12 at 13:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

idle valve sounds about right actually, but dont fancy trying to pull it apart on the road, been kicked off my drive to fit my mums new scooby on we'll see later on at the garage
CORSAguy93
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1st Nov 12 at 13:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

swill: im hoping for it to be a sensor, at least thats easy lol
1L Nick
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1st Nov 12 at 13:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

see if it works if it dont u2u me an ill ask my mate wat he did next
CORSAguy93
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1st Nov 12 at 13:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sound cheers, ill update here later on if anything gets done, probably wont be for a few days yet though, its a side job for my uncle as it isnt booked in just kinda there if they get time
kennySRi
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1st Nov 12 at 13:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If fuel is pumping through then id be checking the crank sensor next.
Darryl H
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1st Nov 12 at 15:00   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I would have said crank sensor but it is getting a spark


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flybikeslee
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1st Nov 12 at 15:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

pics of mum
CORSAguy93
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1st Nov 12 at 15:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Darryl: i have no idea about these things haha cosmetics are my thing, engines hurt my head.

flybikeslee: i can imagine the conversation now, "mum can i take your picture, some men on the internet want to see you" haha
fazza
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1st Nov 12 at 15:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by CORSAguy93
"mum can i take your picture, some men on the internet want to see you"



MatthewR
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1st Nov 12 at 15:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by flybikeslee
pics of mum


CORSAguy93
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this is precisely why i love cs, when all hope is lost, have a laugh.

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