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5th Nov 12 at 13:11

There is talk of a new class being added to our local MotorSport / Racing Club (SMRC)... a class for 2.0 N/A cars... Seems like a very good class, but what car would you choose any why?

No published regs as yet but can imagine it would entail the following

<2000cc +50cc to allow rebores
Treaded tyres - 888s/048s
Non Sequential Gearbox
No areo unless standard or homologated

Clio 172/182/192, CTR, ITR etc etc would all fit in nicely

[Edited on 05-11-2012 by AK]

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5th Nov 12 at 13:15

Without a doubt CTR or ITR good cars as standard whip some handling and breathing mods and i'd say they are 110% better than the 182 etc

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5th Nov 12 at 13:16

Homologated aero means you could use an ex btcc integra dc5 with standard non seq dc5 box then

Robin

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5th Nov 12 at 13:18

Or an ex Clio cup car without the sadev unit?

Dave

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5th Nov 12 at 13:40

So this saloon racing, doesn't matter if they are hatchbacks then?

Gaz

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5th Nov 12 at 14:14

xe'd mini

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5th Nov 12 at 14:52

yup... i know what that means Robin.

but you could run those cars in all their glory in a higher up class too. Slicks, sequential etc.

Thats a bit like buying a Ferrari for 200k, and then swapping the engine for a 1.2 fiat to save on fuel. A bit pointless

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5th Nov 12 at 14:55

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
So this saloon racing, doesn't matter if they are hatchbacks then?

nope, but no kit cars, and I'd image a rule stating no engine transplants...

as said above... no clear rules or even firm class as yet

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5th Nov 12 at 15:16

As others have said, Integra/Civic or Clios. Throw a lot of money at a MX5 engine to make it up to a 2000cc?

Edit, also there is talk on clubgti of being able to get 300bhp from the 2.0 FSI units in the Mk5 VAG stuff

[Edited on 05-11-2012 by antnee]

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5th Nov 12 at 15:28

quote:
Originally posted by AK
yup... i know what that means Robin.

but you could run those cars in all their glory in a higher up class too. Slicks, sequential etc.

Thats a bit like buying a Ferrari for 200k, and then swapping the engine for a 1.2 fiat to save on fuel. A bit pointless

True, didnt realise there was a class above!

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5th Nov 12 at 15:42

A - where Fee races (A1, A2)
B - where I race (B1, B2)
C - 1600cc class, and prob a new 2000cc class, so C1, C2 perhaps

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5th Nov 12 at 15:53

do you think you would be allowed to ditch the standard intake and use carbs/throttle bodies?

[Edited on 05-11-2012 by craig-dodd]

antnee

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5th Nov 12 at 16:02

E46 320si

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5th Nov 12 at 16:26

quote:
Originally posted by AK

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
So this saloon racing, doesn't matter if they are hatchbacks then?

nope, but no kit cars, and I'd image a rule stating no engine transplants...

as said above... no clear rules or even firm class as yet

If they don't implement a no transplant policy I'd be going for an EG Civic with a K20.

Phil W

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5th Nov 12 at 16:35

I read "Saloon" and "Racing" and instantly thought of these...

I miss the 90's BTCC

[Edited on 05-11-2012 by Phil W]

[Edited on 05-11-2012 by Phil W]

Gaz

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5th Nov 12 at 16:45

used to love the cav and the alfa!

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5th Nov 12 at 17:03

That's what I'm getting at, I reckon a cheap ex btcc car (pug 306 for example) minus the sequential would be pretty quick, probably quicker that anything you could build.

Not a full on btcc one but one of the early 2000s btc-t cars or one of the production cup btcc cars.

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5th Nov 12 at 20:49

Everything Phil just posted is cooler than I can describe, just missing the Nescafe Laguna

Paul_J

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5th Nov 12 at 21:23

anyone want to buy a race prep'd integra type R? ... u2u me or Warren

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/honda/integra/class-winning-honda-integra-race-car--5499-o-n-o/848569

Open to offers on the above!

[Edited on 05-11-2012 by Paul_J]

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5th Nov 12 at 22:39

S2000? 2.0 N/A, 240 bhp and RWD.

From what I've read above, it's not strictly saloons

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6th Nov 12 at 05:43

quote:
Originally posted by craig-dodd
do you think you would be allowed to ditch the standard intake and use carbs/throttle bodies?

[Edited on 05-11-2012 by craig-dodd]

yup, as long as it isnt forced induction.

A good rule for engine swaps would be 'from the same family'

i.e a K20 mini wouldnt float, but a K20 EK9 would

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6th Nov 12 at 07:45

300bhp isn't impossible from a K20 without forced induction. EK9 or EG would be immense

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6th Nov 12 at 09:15

yup, k20 something ould be my thinking too...

250bhp on this one

http://trackscotland.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5036 without ITBs :O

Rob B

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6th Nov 12 at 14:41

Be careful with these "250 BHP's" They are all generally tuned at the same place and make 230 BHP on most other rolling roads.

Mike Jordans Integra engine was built by clockwise motion and a true 290 BHP for 20k.

I have exhaust, filter and management on mine, mapped by me at 223BHP, yet all the "250 BHP" don't pull at all on me..

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6th Nov 12 at 18:17

My mate had 240bhp with Kpro, CAI, inlet, mani and decat system mapped by Henry Roy. Doesn't take too much to get there but then it begins to get expensive.

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