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Steve

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18th Jan 13 at 19:45

To buy something, eg an electronic component, such as a UBEC, that is already branded, take off its branding and repackage it with your own?

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18th Jan 13 at 19:49

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18th Jan 13 at 19:50

Steve

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18th Jan 13 at 19:52

That was my thought, just thought id check wasnt sure how it stood with branded electronic components

neil h

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18th Jan 13 at 20:07

UBEC, now there is an item that doesn't do what it says on the tin

Steve

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18th Jan 13 at 20:08

lol its not actually a UBEC, that was the first thing that came into my head

This is it

I was just wanting to replace that card insert with my own

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18th Jan 13 at 20:14

BarnshaW

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18th Jan 13 at 20:15

sounds perfectly legal mate just get on with it and do it, pretty sure they wont mind anyway.

John

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18th Jan 13 at 20:17

Stick your card in and then say you developed it.

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18th Jan 13 at 20:22

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
lol its not actually a UBEC, that was the first thing that came into my head

Yeah, i'm pretty sure ya drone wouldn't work if it actually did what it said on the tin

Mind you its only a 5V regulator circuit, so making one and branding as your own is easy enough.

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18th Jan 13 at 20:24

quote:
Originally posted by John
Stick your card in and then say you developed it.

Dom

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18th Jan 13 at 20:24

quote:
Originally posted by John
Stick your card in and then say you developed it.

"Already does"

Dom

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18th Jan 13 at 20:29

quote:
Originally posted by VrsTurbo
no

Not as simple as that; depends if it's trademarked or copyrighted. Usually it's best to get consent from the original manufacturer.

[Edited on 18-01-2013 by Dom]

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19th Jan 13 at 19:05

Why pretend its yours in the first place? Just re-sell its not an issue! People will be pissed off if they find out you put your name on a $5 hobbyking item and sold it to them for 10 quid

neil h

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19th Jan 13 at 20:19

They'll get even more pissed off when they realise its a voltage regulator worth a couple of quid at best, and a couple of caps. So all of maybe 3-4 quids worth of components (bearing in mind you could get the board made for free).

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20th Jan 13 at 11:36

http://www.dronetec.co.uk/quadmod610.html

Is that an OrangeRX R610 under that? you are a bad boy steve lol.

Steve

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20th Jan 13 at 11:46

Yep it is hence the model number, is a decent parkfly receiver for the the budget, seems to perform better than the Spektrum equivalents, and is DSM 2 compatible

[Edited on 20-01-2013 by Steve]

Steve

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20th Jan 13 at 11:51

The rx is just one part of it though, looks nice and compact but under there is the receiver, an arduino pro mini, and a logic level converter, and the gps plug gubbins.

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20th Jan 13 at 12:30

quote:
Originally posted by neil h
They'll get even more pissed off when they realise its a voltage regulator worth a couple of quid at best, and a couple of caps. So all of maybe 3-4 quids worth of components (bearing in mind you could get the board made for free).

Where can you get PCB's made for free?

Steve

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20th Jan 13 at 12:31

its also not just a voltage regulator, a ubec almost uses a mini transformer, and is switching

a voltage reg isnt very efficient, a UBEC is 92% efficient

[Edited on 20-01-2013 by Steve]

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20th Jan 13 at 12:32

quote:
Originally posted by Dom

quote:
Originally posted by VrsTurbo
no

Not as simple as that; depends if it's trademarked or copyrighted. Usually it's best to get consent from the original manufacturer.

[Edited on 18-01-2013 by Dom]

Copyrighting is automatic, you can claim copyright on just about anything. What have trademarks got to do with it?

Steve

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20th Jan 13 at 12:33

Indeed il not be taking this up, il probably just end up finding out how to make them myself

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20th Jan 13 at 12:43

It's best not to take someone else's product and brand it up as your own unless you're buying it in an OEM type agreement. If you did it without consent then you'd take responsibility of the product so if you had any warranty issues or similar you'd probably be liable for it which aint good.

neil h

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20th Jan 13 at 12:52

quote:
Originally posted by ed
Where can you get PCB's made for free?

I'm in the process of getting one done through spirit circuits. They'll do free 'naked' pcbs (I.e. no solder mask, component ids etc) for free. I don't know what sort of quantities they do but for the average person wanting a one of then I don't see it matters.

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
its also not just a voltage regulator, a ubec almost uses a mini transformer, and is switching

Sorry Steve but I don't think that's right, your talking about far more weight than is necessary. That and I've done a we bit of research and all the websites I've looked at say that they use a switching regulator with an inductor in series with the output (which makes sense).

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20th Jan 13 at 13:22

the ubec weighs about 3 grams?

everywhere iv read states a voltage regulator on its own is inefficient, ok for appliances or mains control etc, but for things reliant on battery power that is drained quickly anyway, a switching ubec is the way to go, hence why they are so popular in rc applications

[Edited on 20-01-2013 by Steve]

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