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baza31
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19th Jan 13 at 16:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What a morning, was in transit going up to see my folks this morning, up a very steep hill which was snowy . My van wouldn't get up so I stopped. A gentleman stopped in a discovery and offered to tow me up which I accepted. So he pulled in front of me and put the rope on . As he gets in an a3 come down the hill at at least 40mph sliding on snow sideways and hit the guy towing me, who went back and bumped my van . His motor was fucked, Audi totally fucked , my van has done front panel bumper and cross member.

So it's now insurance , who claims off who? If it means I have to claim off the guy who was helping me then I will repair and pay for it myself as he was doing a kind deed. The Audi driver was a nob, didn't once say sorry . Infact if his kids wasn't with him he was going right way for a slap.

Me and land rover was stationary. He come to our side of road .

Van will cost me roughly £300 to put right, I don't mind paying it to make land rovers life easier. Not injured and neither is my child and it was all an accident . I presume normally I would claim off land rover and he would claim all lot off Audi. If this was case would it be detromental in any way to land rover owner?
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19th Jan 13 at 16:22   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i think he would claim off you. You didn't leave adequate space behind i know he was towing you etc but it may go 50/50
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19th Jan 13 at 16:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If the audi driver admits fault then I believe you both claim off him.

His actions resulted in your vehicle being damaged.

Didn't leave adequate space i'll remember that next time someone hits me in a car park.
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19th Jan 13 at 16:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

prove negligence. i think you'll find the audi drivers insurer deny liability as technically its not his fault.
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19th Jan 13 at 16:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

He was doing at least 40mph, enough to knock a 3ton disco 6ft back, we was stationary , Audi driver also come onto our side of road. Impossible to get out of it

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[Edited on 19-01-2013 by baza31]
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19th Jan 13 at 16:39   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Should be all claiming on the Audi


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19th Jan 13 at 16:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by VrsTurbo
i think he would claim off you. You didn't leave adequate space behind i know he was towing you etc but it may go 50/50



Claim off me? I was end of a chain, I didn't hit anyone . Audi hit land rover and landrover hit me. Also 6ft is adequate especially seen as we wasn't moving
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19th Jan 13 at 16:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Thought he was doing at least 40
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quote:
Originally posted by sc0ott
Thought he was doing at least 40


I meant to write 40, unfortunately I forgot to bring my speed gun .
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19th Jan 13 at 16:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

cant prove speed so it cant be used against them
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19th Jan 13 at 16:47   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well at least you have the bonus of having your story verified by the Disco driver and vice versa if the Audi driver tries to bullshit.


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19th Jan 13 at 16:47   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

speed was used against me
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19th Jan 13 at 16:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

legally cant be unless its verified.
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19th Jan 13 at 16:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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19th Jan 13 at 16:52   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
legally cant be unless its verified.


my insurance said to me the other driver said I was doing in excess of 100 on the slip road so would probably side with them
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19th Jan 13 at 16:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

your insurer was shit then. no proof and it cant be used against you, same as anything else. the other guy could say you were stood on the roof controlling the car with rope, doesnt make it true
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19th Jan 13 at 16:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

In a case like this id have taken pictures of where the audi driver started sliding at 40 and where he ended up. Show the insurers the distance he went sideways etc and what side of the road he was on, going by the tracks.

Without pics i cant see them getting their head around why anyone would do 40mph down a steep hill covered in snow.
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19th Jan 13 at 17:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I don't think he was intending to do that speed, his wheels was locked up and he gained speed. I have spoke to landrover guy and am going to go see him tomorrow
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19th Jan 13 at 17:37   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The Audi caused the accident, you both claim from him
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19th Jan 13 at 17:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by pow
The Audi caused the accident, you both claim from him


technically the snow did.
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He wasn't driving to conditions then.
Guns don't kill people etc etc


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19th Jan 13 at 17:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If it had of been twenty seconds earlier the landrover guy was crowched behind his motor attaching rope. He would of been killed
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19th Jan 13 at 17:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

both you and the land rover simply say you were both stationary and out of your vehicles parked and the audi came and hit you both, he won't have a leg to stand on
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and see if anyone in the houses saw as well if there were any
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19th Jan 13 at 18:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

don't even bother saying to the insurance company about the speed you think the audi driver was doing. they won't even care, unless you're a car crash investigator with accurate reading equipment.

if you do, it makes you as bad as the old people who hear a loud exhaust and immediately assume someone is doing twice the speed limit, despite still being in 1st gear.

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