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Whittie
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19th Feb 13 at 14:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Bought a domain 18 months ago for a client, all in his name. Did him a website, all was good for the 18 months. Now his uncles dogs mates cousins brothers son in law does web hosting, and asked me to transfer the hosting to him. I changed the name-servers, happy days all is good again.

Suddenly 2 months later he appears to be back on my name servers ( I rarely delete accounts ) and hosting back with me, I questioned him when I noticed activity on the account and he's denied all knowledge of the above, unfortunately most was done on the phone and a facebook message over my page, so don't have much proof.

Anyway, I have told him I don't want to host his site or have control of his domain, as he is causing me unnecessary unpaid work. I checked the domain and turns out someone (the chap from above, I assume) has already contacted nominet, and now has full control of the domain now, not me.

So, who's problem is it? The owner of the domain or mine? I'll just delete his hosting account otherwise, along with all files.

Cheeky Bastard.
Balling
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19th Feb 13 at 14:07   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

So technically he has free storage with you?

I'd say if there's no prior agreement for you to host his shit, then get rid.

You could send him the files if you were feeling in a good mood, and probably give a few days heads up of your intentions.
Depends if you want to slam the door on him or not I suppose.


Whittie
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The agreement I sent originally was August 2011 - August 2012 I'd say he's had free hosting for about 2-4months.

That doesn't bother me, just want to make sure that if I delete his account, nothing can come back to me regarding his domain name. I initially registered it, but now have no control. I have his original site I did for him, he has a copy too, now he's got some shit site someone has done in paint / word and sliced it.

[Edited on 19-02-2013 by Whittie]
Gary
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Dom
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Why have you still go their hosting account setup? Surely you'd have removed it as soon as you pointed the domain at the other host?

What i don't understand is how they've managed to transfer the domain from you without you being notified by Nominent/registrar.

Either way, you don't own the domain and you don't host the site (not officially; that job was transferred to the new host).

However i'd backup the site and remove your hosting of it; if you feel generous you can always email across the backup to the site/company owner.
Whittie
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I'd rather not as google crawls this site.
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Whatsapp then you gay!
Whittie
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quote:
Originally posted by Dom
Why have you still go their hosting account setup? Surely you'd have removed it as soon as you pointed the domain at the other host?

What i don't understand is how they've managed to transfer the domain from you without you being notified by Nominent/registrar.

Either way, you don't own the domain and you don't host the site (not officially; that job was transferred to the new host).

However i'd backup the site and remove your hosting of it; if you feel generous you can always email across the backup to the site/company owner.


Some I just leave there, usually when i've designed their website. . I've had 3 come back to me and ask for it to be put back online, so saves faffing about. I can host as many sites as I need, so just put a 1 infront of their account username so I know they're not active. There's only 7 in total.

Ideal, so i'll make a back up. Remove their account, job done.

Regarding the Nominet notification - I have absolutely no idea how they've managed to take full control, i've had nothing through.

[Edited on 19-02-2013 by Whittie]
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by Whittie
The agreement I sent originally was August 2011 - August 2012 I'd say he's had free hosting for about 2-4months.

That doesn't bother me, just want to make sure that if I delete his account, nothing can come back to me regarding his domain name. I initially registered it, but now have no control. I have his original site I did for him, he has a copy too, now he's got some shit site someone has done in paint / word and sliced it.



So they've still got access to your hosting of their site? And they've been using it (ie: replaced the site with said Word/Paint version)?

Chances are the company/site owner got someone else in, transferred the domain and then handed over your details thinking they were correct/up-to-date and then his/her designer just went along with it.


Worth letting them know that the hosting was transferred on X date to his mates/dads/brothers/cats host, when the domain was transferred away from you and then when the domain began to point towards your hosting again with them re-using you to host the site for Y length FOR FREE and without your knowledge or consent. Then if you want the business you can always says you're happy to host the site, point them towards one of your packages, otherwise the hosting will be removed (if you're feeling extra generous give them 24/48hrs to back it up etc).
John
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19th Feb 13 at 14:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Do Nominet ask the other party when you have enough information to prove you should have control of it. I know it normally only takes a day or so to complete the process, never checked what goes on behind the scenes.
Sam
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Just delete the account from cPanel/Plesk/whatever you use.

Nothing to do with you any more, they can use your nameservers but it doesn't mean they'll have a functioning website or email
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Make the domain forward to a competitor
Sam
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quote:
Originally posted by Brett
Make the domain forward to pornhub.com




[Edited on 19-02-2013 by Sam]
Whittie
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Wish I would, knowing my luck though they'll get me done.

I've put images like this on in the past for other clients who decide they want hosting for free.



You'd be surprised at how fast people can pay then
Sam
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19th Feb 13 at 16:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I have some clients that have free hosting off me sometimes, but that's usually down to me forgetting to invoice them
Whittie
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quote:
Originally posted by Sam
I have some clients that have free hosting off me sometimes, but that's usually down to me forgetting to invoice them




I can name 5 or 6 people off here who i've hosted for free for up to 5 years

Gaz
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23rd Feb 13 at 18:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'd say close the site down, but don't delete his files as its technically not your data (from how I understand this). Let him kick off for a while and invoice him for the2-4 months.

Alternatively can you not forward the site back to the other nameservers you were given?

 
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