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Tom J
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16th Apr 13 at 22:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if the bulb has been removed, is it a MOT fail?

my neighbours dad's airbag light is on because the "clockspring" behind the steering wheel is faulty. and its quite expensive to sort out. he's wondering if it'll pass if he removes the airbag bulb? only problem is service light will still be showing
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16th Apr 13 at 22:06   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Take that bulb out too


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16th Apr 13 at 22:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Must come on and go out
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16th Apr 13 at 22:15   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Bad times then


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Gaz
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16th Apr 13 at 22:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

They can only fail what they can see.

No warning bulb displaying = no fail
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16th Apr 13 at 22:36   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i doubt they would fail it with it on, most testers done care, if seen plently of saxos with the air bag light on go through mots with out even an advisory on it,

personaly i would take it out just incase but i dont think its the end of the world
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17th Apr 13 at 00:03   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by jay26
Must come on and go out

This is what my mrs was told about her ABS light (with abs that's fucked). So they wired the light in to come on and go off when the oil light did
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17th Apr 13 at 06:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Gaz
They can only fail what they can see.

No warning bulb displaying = no fail


thats rubbish

so you could take every warning light bulb out and expect it to pass?
Sean
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17th Apr 13 at 06:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

As of the end of march the srs light has to come on and go out, no light is a fail and if the light is always on that's a fail to.
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17th Apr 13 at 06:50   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If the car has an airbag it must come on and go out.

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17th Apr 13 at 06:51   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Also wiring to another bulb is also technically a fail as it won't be the correct order, however you may get away with it depending how picky or on the ball they are.
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Doesn't state an order in the mot criteria sheet?
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17th Apr 13 at 07:47   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

So all these new rules have done has improved the thinking on how to scam it? Wiring to oil light bulbs, ffs
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17th Apr 13 at 09:10   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
If the car has an airbag it must come on and go out.




No it doesn't.

IF the airbag light is on it will fail.

Take the bulb out and it'll pass. We've had two cars in this week with this issue.
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17th Apr 13 at 09:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
If the car has an airbag it must come on and go out.




No it doesn't.

IF the airbag light is on it will fail.

Take the bulb out and it'll pass. We've had two cars in this week with this issue.


If it's fitted it must work correctly.... So if the light doesn't work then it is a fail. Needs removing correctly too not just removel or the airbag as that would still be a failure
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17th Apr 13 at 09:29   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It wont matter if the light doesn't come on, like I said we've had two in at work this week and they passed without bulbs.
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17th Apr 13 at 09:31   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

As of 20th march the airbag light being ON is a failure

not working at all is a pass
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17th Apr 13 at 09:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Do folk spend that much time and effort trying to think of ways around the problem rather than just sorting it in the first place?
Sean
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quote:
Originally posted by DannyB
It wont matter if the light doesn't come on, like I said we've had two in at work this week and they passed without bulbs.


We had vosa round the other day that's not the case, I've taken a picture of the method of test and reason for failure





If the warning light does not come on and go off it is inoperative and therefore a fail.

If you want to look yourself its in section 5.4 on page 1
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17th Apr 13 at 09:52   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The guy we use for MOT's must be kind to us then
BarnshaW
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17th Apr 13 at 09:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

or unsafe
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17th Apr 13 at 09:57   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

isn't there a section that contradicts this though as you can have a track car that has a replacement wheel with no airbag that still passes MOT.
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17th Apr 13 at 09:58   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my engine management bulb doesnt have a light
Sean
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Yeah 'rally cars' ( the term they used) have exemption it's a grey area as to what they class as a rally car though
Sean
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[Edited on 17-04-2013 by Sean]

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