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Dont you think?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22777497
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This statement is interesting too

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Samsung is the world's largest maker of smartphones. Analysts estimate it outsold Apple by nearly two to one in the first three months of the year.

However, Apple's smartphone business is more profitable.


Basically means Apple sell less phones but use cheaper components and charge people more for the cheaper hardware.
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I think the use at least as good hardware but charge more for it.

Although a top of the range samsung costs the same as an iPhone to buy outright, I'd hazard a guess at most phone sales being on contract, where the iPhone is still the same price to the network, but the samsung will be massively discounted.
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Basically means Apple sell less phones but use cheaper components and charge people more for the cheaper hardware.
Of course it doesn't.

You can't just take that one line and boil it down to have one specific meaning.

For one thing, Samsung are spending a fortune on marketing. A lot more than Apple.


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I can when im trolling fan boys
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I can when im trolling fan boys
Feeling alright mate?

It usually takes 3-4 pages before you figure out you've said something stupid and start making that type of excuses.


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I think you underestimate my brilliance
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I probably do, I'll give you that one.


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For one thing, Samsung are spending a fortune on marketing. A lot more than Apple.


Link to stats please? I imagine it cost Apple quite alot to keep all them stores open every week and staffed.
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Link to stats please? I imagine it cost Apple quite alot to keep all them stores open every week and staffed.
Sorry, not source, but shouldn't be too hard to find. Was on a lot of sites a month or two ago about a compared marketing budget.

Also, running the stores will not be part of the equation when we're looking at phones specifically.

Remember, they're talking phone business vs. phone business, not company vs. company.

The big picture is likely very different.


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There we go:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324096404578356651577771618.html


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I gave up after...

"Analysts say Apple is seeking to limit the growth of Google's Android system."



No, they're seeking to stop Samsungs blatant copying and Samsung are retaliating with obscure generic patents.

Willay -



[Edited on 05-06-2013 by A2H GO]
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Originally posted by Steve
This statement is interesting too

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Analysts estimate it outsold Apple by nearly two to one.




That's pretty poor considering they have over 200 phones on the market across every price range, demographic, and screen size compared to Apple's 3 tbf.

Also, I'm sure Apple will be gutted about not being able to sell products that have already been and are soon to be discontinued.

[Edited on 05-06-2013 by A2H GO]
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
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Good chart, thank you.

Out of interest, what else do Samsung Electronics produce? I mean Apple do the laptops, desktop, tablet, phone, tv box, uh... what else? Samsung make phones, ram, tvs, printers, cameras, hard disks, netbooks, laptops, tablets?
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So my point being, their marketing spend will be higher than Apples as they produce more products for more/different markets, no?
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Look at my link above, that's phones only.


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Weird that A2H doesn't buy it
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lol
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I think Ash is just an under cover Samsung fan boy dead set on giving Apple fan boys a bad name...


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quote:
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I think Ash is just an under cover Samsung fan boy dead set on giving Apple fan boys a bad name...


I'm not even an Apple fan boy tbf, half of Apples stuff is shit like iCloud and Apple TV and the only Apple products I own are a phone and an iPad that's battered and 2 years old

I just think Samsung are dicks tbf, they were dicks when my fridge broke, dicks when my phone broke, make shity software and underhand snarky adverts that poke fun at competitors instead of just making decent products. The hard nosed corportate bullshit that goes on inside that company must be unreal.


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patents are a minefield, theyve both used the same technology but one of them managed to get a patent in first. that goes for both parties and various components over many years.

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