Crana
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Registered: 20th Jan 09
Location: Newcastle
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Need a little help here, me and a few friends have been renting unit for over a year just to work on our cars and store parts and spares. We make no money at all and aren't a business yet I received 2 letters saying I owe the council money for business rates. Spoke to my landlord and he says just to ring up and claim to be a small business so you won't have to pay... All seems a little funny to me think hes trying to screw the system via us for his over tenets
here the letters
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Ben J
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Registered: 31st Jan 05
Location: Cheshire
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Tell the truth that its just for storage and working on own cars. Not sure why your landlord is saying that.
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SXI - Matt
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That's a big bill for nothing bet you were slightly shocked when that arrived
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Crana
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Registered: 20th Jan 09
Location: Newcastle
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Just rang up been changed to nill because we make no money but says it'll be around £1000 a year from April 2014 for small business rates being a lockup makes no difference he reckons
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RichR
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But you're not a business so that shouldn't apply; Council Tax is the most probable Tax that you'll face
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Tiger
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My bands practice unit isn't a business but we pay business rates, it's a commercial premises, that's the only reason.
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Steve
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sounds like payments the landlord should be footing to me
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Robbo
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yep, depends what the land registry (or whoever it is) has it noted as commercial premises get busienss rates (unless empty/derelict iirc), dwelligns get council tax
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baza31
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Edited due to no reading comments
[Edited on 02-07-2013 by baza31]
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baza31
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
sounds like payments the landlord should be footing to me
How do you work that one out ?
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Steve
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Registered: 30th Mar 02
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Not talking about the business rates, I meant in reply to this
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Originally posted by Crana
Just rang up been changed to nill because we make no money but says it'll be around £1000 a year from April 2014 for small business rates being a lockup makes no difference he reckons
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random dav
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Registered: 7th Jan 04
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It makes no difference if you make money or not, it's the same as council tax, pays for local services, etc.
You can get rate relief and reduced to nil for certaain amounts of time.
WRLFC !
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Gary
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quote:
Originally posted by baza31
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
sounds like payments the landlord should be footing to me
How do you work that one out ?
Landlord is the business, so should pay, not 2 lads pissing about with thier cars.
Whats your rent agreement say Crana?
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BeArDy
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Registered: 7th Aug 00
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Wait until you get your waste water and highways drainage bill 
Now theres a funny which you get nailed on, again weather you are a business or not you still have to pay it 
Oh and they back date it aswell, so if they unit is in yours and your mates name they will chase you threw the courts for it.
[Edited on 02-07-2013 by BeArDy]
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Toby
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Registered: 29th Nov 05
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Ring your local council and advise them your not a business. I had to speak to them about the rates for a business I used to manage in Lincoln, they sent somebody out to talk to me and review the case, they ended up adjusting then slightly to suit.
Though you will probably still be charged to an extent for water drainage Etc even if you don't have a water supply to the building.
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Jay
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Registered: 26th Sep 04
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quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
Wait until you get your waste water and highways drainage bill
Now theres a funny which you get nailed on, again weather you are a business or not you still have to pay it
Oh and they back date it aswell, so if they unit is in yours and your mates name they will chase you threw the courts for it.
[Edited on 02-07-2013 by BeArDy]
My mum used to own a newsagents and live above, got a water and drainage bill for the shop when there was no running water in there or a toilet. They used to use the one in the flat, argued it for ages finally came to their senses after about 2 years of back and forth.
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