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Jon_C
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6th Feb 14 at 11:57   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Looking at one of these as my next car. Anyone had one / what you think to it ?
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6th Feb 14 at 12:02   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Loved mine but the wife hated it

Everything is a bit of a pain to get hold of, cam belt is different to the normal Zetec, clutch and flywheel is expensive and they do fail.

Bit thirsty too as they love revs, gearing is quite long as well, they're not 'nippy' like you'd think but you can change that with bits from a Mini Cooper S.

I'd have another.
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One I am looking at has recently had a clutch and cam belt. It has a 6 speed box so thought it might be ok for a slow ride to work and not be too juicy. When you say it's not "nippy"'is it really slow. Baring in mind I will be getting out of an 8v mk3 golf gti
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Bits from a Cooper S ???
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Cooper S used the same gearbox but with different ratios, if you really didn't get on with the focus' gearing, you can swap them over and it makes it quicker in each gear.

It's not slow it just feels like you're in 4th when you're in 3rd sometimes if that makes sense.
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6th Feb 14 at 12:25   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Yeah I get ya. Cheers for the help dude.
Ojc
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You can get them for peanuts these days.

Robin is that the gearbox from the facelift R53? Because the early cooper S had long gears as well
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Both are shorter than the ST170 IIRC.
Ojc
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I'm sure early Cooper S do 70+ in 2nd
DanCobb
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My brother in law has one and loves it although he said it can be juicy
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quote:
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I'm sure early Cooper S do 70+ in 2nd


ST170 does as well.

I had a list of all the ratios, all 3 sets are different in certain gears.
ShEp
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Eat fuel and insurance is extortionate for a 170bhp car
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Doesn't sound too appealing now then
Paul_JC
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Mate of mine breaks these day in day out so any issues he can usually sort parts for.
From people i've known insurance hasn't been a problem.
You done quotes on one?
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Get a ST220 instead!

Love mine.
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My insurance was cheap, they're not expensive to insure unless you're 12.
Ben G
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70mph in 2nd? My Z4 is long geared and I can only get 60.

Sounds like pub talk.
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It's not, they have stupid gears. My e36 is the same.
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Vectra GSi's with the F25 have long ass gearing, 110mph in 3rd.
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quote:
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70mph in 2nd? My Z4 is long geared and I can only get 60.

Sounds like pub talk.


My ibiza cupra used to do 65-70mph in second aswell

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Ben G
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Very odd.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
Very odd.


Try harder

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Simon_16v
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My Clio does 70 too in 2nd
Ben G
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Harder at what? I find it odd, that's all.

I understand not having to change up before 62mph will make the 0-62 book figure quicker, but these are normal hatchbacks, not performance vehicles.
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Why did your Missus not like yours Robin?

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