Steve
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The problem, listed building so can't run trunking up walls etc, as such current cabling is a mess. Single wires going from a switch tacked to the walls straight into the back of the pc
Building needs a rewire but hands are tied as per above. Any ideas? Business scenario so needs to be reliable.
Some ideas: network over power sockets, wireless etc but unsure of reliability or speeds of both
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Cavey
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I'd guess Homeplugs would be easiest
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John
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Powerline over wireless but you'd have to do some testing first. Depending on how it's wired, it may or may not work well (normally works fine).
Wireless just isn't good enough for more than a few things at a time, unless you spend a lot of money.
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Aaron
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Is 802.11ac Wifi available to the masses yet? Could be an option
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Steve
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What's powerline over wireless
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John
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I meant powerline as a better choice than wireless.
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Steve
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Gotya, what's max speed over power
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Dom
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No false floors or ceilings you can use for runs?
If the former then you could use raised floor sockets/boxes; if the latter then you can get cabling columns that go between the false ceiling and desk(s).
[Edited on 13-07-2014 by Dom]
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Steve
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Nah this place is like hogwarts, oak floor boards and original ceilings
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I'm not sure listed status stops you putting removable trunking down a wall you know...
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Steve
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It does we've been told to take it off before. Or sink it into the walls and we can't afford that.
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Rob_Quads
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Could you use the Hotspot Homeplugs in each room.
Obviously never going to be as good as hard wired but with the hotspot in the room it should be fairly reliable. (and even if one failed you might find the rooms around give enough coverage)
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Steve
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Yeah things like that Im going to try I think, first to test is those network over powerline jobbys
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willay
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some of these:
http://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap/
Run cat5/6 drop to each AP, back to a PoE switch, then use a virtual machine to host the configuration software. sorted.
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Steve
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And put wireless cards in all the PCs?
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Ian W
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In my experience, ethernet over power only works well when the power cabling is reasonably modern, they where shit in my parents house but worked great in my apartment, if the building is as old as you say you might find they are not great.
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willay
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Run new cables
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willay
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
And put wireless cards in all the PCs?
yes, I prefer wired but fuck having that much Ethernet over Power tingz. AP in each room, all connected together using the soft controller. sorted.
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Ian W
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
some of these:
http://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap/
Run cat5/6 drop to each AP, back to a PoE switch, then use a virtual machine to host the configuration software. sorted.
Used these myself, they work well and look very 
I wouldn't go full wireless on any kind of business network though, isn't fast enough imo
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willay
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They sound like a bunch of jokers so it should be fine. dont forget it uses 802.11n so will be pretty quick.
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Steve
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Private school
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willay
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how big is the building? how many rooms need wireless? what does their network look like? how many terminals? servers? laptops?
Listed building shouldnt have problems with trunking tbh (though I'm guessing you've been told its a no go?)
And the thing with wireless is you need to plan it properly and have more Access Points then you planned to have, again an educated guess is that its a listed building so it will have thick walls which are not good for wireless coverage.
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The new Cisco "small business" access points like the WAP321 don't need a controller, appliance/virtual/otherwise.
I've just set a couple up, so easy to cluster them together and stuff like that - but I can't comment on their coverage in a building that you're working on.
I certainly wouldn't be using homeplugs for anything more than a couple of point to point connections in a home.
Wireless is fine if you spend more than £50 on an AP, in my experience. Clients without WiFi adapters are a slight inconvenience, but nothing a dongle/wireless card won't sort.
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Dom
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I wouldn't even look at EoP, it's certainly not 'business-grade', it's generally problematic and adaptors are expensive to get decent performance which is massively dependant on internal wiring and distance - if you do want to look at EoP however, then TPLink 6010's are currently one of the best options (~£50 a pair).
Personally a wireless network is far better suited to the situation and it'll be easier to support.
Although i'd get a reclassification regarding adding internal trunking to the building - contact the council first as English Heritage are likely to give you the run-around.
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John
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I've got loads of EoP in the field. I know it's not ideal but find them to be more reliable than wifi if more than a few people using it.
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