baza31
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Need a new PC sick of windows and getting to grips with the shitty layout . Does anyone have or recommend these ? Thanks
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Balling
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Hate using a retina screen, personally.
If you don't work with graphics or web design, I imagine you'll be fine, though.
If you do buy a Mac, be prepared to defend that decision for the duration of your ownership.
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Ste
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If you're just buying a computer to go on the internet and look at facebook or porn then buy a chromebook. You can even use torrents and put a memory card in one to watch films when you're away from wifi if that's what you want.
I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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Gary
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You'll just get confused by a mac. Stick with Windows XP
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DaveyLC
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Buy the mac and install windows via bootcamp, its super simple and you'll have the best of both worlds!
The great thing about an iMac is it will retain a value and its very unlikely to fail.. And if it does fail the Apple Care warranty is second to none! The only thing they don't do is suck your cock while they are repairing/replacing it.
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DaveyLC
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BTW Windows 10 is the bollocks..
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Balling
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
Buy the mac and install windows [...] you'll have the best of both worlds!
Seems to me that would actually be the worst of both worlds, but to each his own.
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
Buy the mac and install windows via bootcamp, its super simple and you'll have the best of both worlds!
In which case i'd argue that you're buying a Mac for the wrong reasons but as Balling says, each to their own.
Baza - If you want Windows then stick to a PC due to performance vs cost; if you want (or need to) to use OSX then purchase a Mac. And personally, i'd opt for one of the other iMac's and upgrade/up the options.
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DaveyLC
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I run Mac's because if you compare like for like gear the price difference is marginal but with the Mac you actually have re-sale value which in-turn cancels out any price difference.
My 2011 i7 iMac27 was about £1600 IIRC.. To buy an equivalent spec QUALITY machine with a 2.5k screen and the same graphics chipset would have been well over a grand.. But that machine now would be worth about £200 where as my mac is still worth £700-800 maybe even more if you believe ebay.
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Russ
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dont buy an iMac
posted from my iMac
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Reecemac
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100%. Once you use a Mac daily, everything else is awful. I've had 2 Macbook Pros now (My gaming and working pc's are Windows) but they last, never go wrong, things just work without having to mess about. Cons would be lack of software (Compared to Windows), price (Although as pointed out, well worth it).
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DaveyLC
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^^^ DITTO
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Dom
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....but they last, never go wrong....
Considering the components are near enough identical to what you get in a typical PC, then you'll find reliability is about the same and the OS is about as buggy; only difference is you have Apple support although you're royally screwed with hardware costs once you're outside of the support period.
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
I run Mac's because if you compare like for like gear the price difference is marginal but with the Mac you actually have re-sale value which in-turn cancels out any price difference.
Massively depends on what Mac you're purchasing, ie - a Mac Pro (exclude packaging/form-factor of the unit) is ludicrously expensive as a workstation considering the hardware; but as you say, it's marginal when comparing to a bottom end iMac.
And you're right that you have re-sale value but this likely to slightly decrease over time considering you're (typically) able to upgrade a PC which you can't easily, if at all, do with Macs now.
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DaveyLC
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its Marginal when compared to the high end stuff too.. If you were building a Video rendering rig that requires the GPU/CPU performance offered by a MacPro then the price difference isn't that massive..
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Reecemac
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I think OS X is much, much less buggy and easier to live with, never slows down. Fair enough with hardware although from using Macbboks, they are extremely solid and resilient. Having had 2 over 6 years the only hardware issue I had was the trackpad "click" stopped working after 2-3 years, took it to Apple and they fixed it for free and cleaned/removed scuffs from the body.
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John
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Have you used windows since 7 came out?
Windows isn't buggy and although I'm still a reboot my machine every night guy, it doesn't slow down.
Macs need rebooted at least as often as a Windows 8 machine does.
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Reecemac
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Yeah I use Windows 7 at work and 8 at home. I haven't rebooted my Macbook in months, although at work people leave their Windows machines on for months too. From my experience over time Windows machines slowly start to get slower and working in I.T. in the past my Mac clients had a lot less issues.
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Reecemac
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Actually I think the reason is Macs are more idiot proof, people download a lot of shit and toolbars etc which you just don't get on a Mac. People are idiots at the end of the day, most anyway.
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DaveyLC
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Its more down to the fact that most OSX users will go to the AppStore for software which has all been vetted, where as on Windows people just download any old shit.
Now Microsoft is pushing the Microsoft Store there should be fewer retards wrecking their PC's..
Apple devices and OSX are genuinely more reliable and forgiving, my misses went nuts when I first got her an MacBook (because it was all so different) but now she loves it because it to be quite frank NEVER EVER EVER goes wrong.
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ed
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
Its more down to the fact that most OSX users will go to the AppStore for software which has all been vetted, where as on Windows people just download any old shit.
ORLY?
A) There's tonnes and tonnes of shite of the App Store
B) Stuff of the App Store isn't really vetted, they do some basic automated testing on most submissions but it's amazing how you can get any old shite on there.
C) One of the main advantages of OS X is the ability to install Unix packages which certainly don't come from the App Store.
[Edited on 12-12-2014 by ed]
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DaveyLC
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I take it you've tried submitting stuff to the App Store then? 
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ed
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Yes
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DaveyLC
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Then you'll know if you're communicating with any 3rd parties or doing any thing remotely suspicious with the file-system they tear it apart and unless you've got a good reason it will be refused.
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ed
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An app doesn't have to be doing anything dodgy to feck your computer up. It just has to be shit and they don't check to see if your pointless little game is leaking memory and slowing your machine down. Install enough rubbish on a computer and it will make it sad.
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DaveyLC
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An app that is shit only messes up the computer while its running the app.. The issue with PC's is there are millions of malicious applications and people have no clue how to tell which are malicious or not because generally there is no 'official source' on a windows machine,.
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