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Author Not to impressed with this HPI check.
Steve X16XE
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26th Apr 15 at 08:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm off to look at a Frontera today. Last night I got the reg plate and the MOT number so I can check the mileage and what it's failed on over the years. In 2006, it had done 35k.... in 2007 it had done 7k!!! The guy is selling the car saying it's done 53,500 miles which does check right with the following MOT's. Now with the HPI check, I thought it'd say ***warning mileage discrepancy*** but it didn't. It didn't say there no outstanding finance... but there could be!

So can these "checks" really be relied on?

It's really cheap and to be fair and it's just going to get battered off roading, so I might end up buying it anyway. I just feel like I've wasted £20 on a useless service.
Gary
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26th Apr 15 at 08:41   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I wouldn't have thought an old frontera would have finance on it still.
Steve X16XE
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26th Apr 15 at 08:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Logbook loan?

Other things like being a write off, have they got that wrong?
Nic Barnes
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26th Apr 15 at 08:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I once paid £12.50 for premium on here. Talk about a useless service.
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26th Apr 15 at 09:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just buy it if it's mechanically ok if it's just an old shitter to smash off road

Also mileage on an mot means fuck all as it's entered manually on the vts system by the tester and is often entered incorrectly by accident, don't even have to put the mileage on an mot you can just put not avaliable, it's not good practise but that's the way it is.
Steve
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26th Apr 15 at 09:54   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Also if clocks break and have been changed then they will just put what mileage the new clocks say
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26th Apr 15 at 10:38   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Milage on the vans mot says 80k because the dash is a but dicky in the cold. It's actually on 180k
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26th Apr 15 at 13:21   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
I once paid £12.50 for premium on here. Talk about a useless service.


I bet everyone would pay £12.50 for you to fuck off. That would be a great service.


I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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Ben G
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26th Apr 15 at 13:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Most definitely.
deano87
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26th Apr 15 at 13:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Dad's 1 Series has just about 20k on it. Took it in for MOT and said 55k on it. All the details were from previous MOT. But they couldn't reissue so had to take it back in so MOT has random number on it.

Nothing you can do and does happen. Was BMW dealership.
GB123
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26th Apr 15 at 13:58   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
Logbook loan?



For a fiver?
Nic Barnes
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26th Apr 15 at 16:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ste
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
I once paid £12.50 for premium on here. Talk about a useless service.


I bet everyone would pay £12.50 for you to fuck off. That would be a great service.
if they want to pay me then yup I'd do that no problem
Ben G
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26th Apr 15 at 16:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'd pay you to admit you're ginger.
Nic Barnes
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26th Apr 15 at 16:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

That would be lies though
DaveyLC
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26th Apr 15 at 19:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Even IF it has out-standing finance: I doubt many finance companies will waste their time and money to reposes a car that is worth less than most peoples mobile phone.
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26th Apr 15 at 21:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
Even IF it has out-standing finance: I doubt many finance companies will waste their time and money to reposes a car that is worth less than most peoples mobile phone.


Would you take the chance though knowing garages are trying to sell them at this price with finance available? I'd waste my time for £4k.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502281308585/sort/atcustom/postcode/ky84aj/radius/1501/make/VAUXHALL/model/frontera/page/1/usedcars

[Edited on 26-04-2015 by Corsa_Sport21]
DaveyLC
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27th Apr 15 at 07:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Anyone who spends £4k on a Frontera Deserves to have it repossessed
Corsa_Sport21
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27th Apr 15 at 08:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It wouldn't be the dumbass who spent the £4k in the 1st place though that gets it taken off them. It would be the next buyer.
Ben G
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27th Apr 15 at 08:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

True. Saw that happen on police interceptors. Poor guy lost about 8 grand.
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
It wouldn't be the dumbass who spent the £4k in the 1st place though that gets it taken off them. It would be the next buyer.


You're missing the point finance company will know full well the cars worth less than a grand.. If they recover the car and auction it they are unlikely to break even on their recovery and commission costs.

Unscrupulous 2nd hand car dealers who are looking to make a fast buck on the finance by selling cars to desperate idiots.
Corsa_Sport21
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27th Apr 15 at 10:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

So why would the finance company take it on in the 1st place if the know they are risking losing £3k?
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
So why would the finance company take it on in the 1st place if the know they are risking losing £3k?


I very much doubt the actual value of the vehicle plays a part when they are dishing out finance.. We're talking about forecourt values v's auction value (if it has to be seized) to, they are always going to be miles apart...

The finance company is only going to be interested in recovering the costs required to take someone to a county court.
Corsa_Sport21
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27th Apr 15 at 11:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm lost now.

Surely they won't dish out £4k of finance on a car that's going to auction for £1k should things go tits up.

 
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