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jamjar15

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Registered: 8th Oct 07
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15th Jun 15 at 11:30

Recieved a cheque from the dvla back in april after I sold my corsa with a note saying it was for a tax refund, so as it was the first car I sold after the new system I figured sounds about right and cashed it as normal.

Now I recieved a letter today saying they sent it in error and can I pay it back in 7 days or they MAY take legal action.

from the sounds of it, it seems like its their mistake and are just hoping I pay them back as its not my fault, or am I in the wrong?

Mike

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15th Jun 15 at 11:46

Do you know how much tax was left when you sold it?

Sent in error could mean you either weren't due a refund, if there was less than a full month left, or it was for the wrong amount. That's the first thing to try and work out. Obviously you don't want to be giving them your money if they've in fact sent the letter 'in error'.

jamjar15

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15th Jun 15 at 13:05

Yeah think there was only about two months left, so I was due a refund but not sure how much, they gave me 79.85), was a 1998 1.0 12v btw

johnny86

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15th Jun 15 at 13:13

Do they send these automatically?

Generation

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15th Jun 15 at 13:21

£80 for two months remaining on a 1.0 is obviously wrong

[Edited on 15-06-2015 by Generation]

DaveyLC

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15th Jun 15 at 13:22

Were any of the letters sent by recorded delivery? If NOT Cash it.. See what happens..

jamjar15

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15th Jun 15 at 13:53

Yeah I only paid about 126 a year iirc so 80 seems a really random number, wasnt sent recorded, cashed it back about two months ago, are they expecting me to pay it back out of the goodness of my heart or am I legally bound to do so?

DaveyLC

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15th Jun 15 at 13:54

I doubt they can do fuck all legally..

Generation

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15th Jun 15 at 14:02

Can only pay in, not cash it.
Soon as ifs in there it can be identified by its serial number. As you can only payninto account holders bank, there's no denying that you've had it

Y869 SRA

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15th Jun 15 at 14:14

Think I got around £60 back after Sorning my 1999 206 GTi 138. Had 4 months tax left on.

jamjar15

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15th Jun 15 at 14:51

If they ask im not going to deny I had the money, just not really in a position to be giving money away if theres no consequences

DaveyLC

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15th Jun 15 at 14:52

quote:
Originally posted by jamjar15
If they ask im not going to deny I had the money, just not really in a position to be giving money away if theres no consequences

You're better off denying knowing anything about it other than receiving a cheque which you promptly cashed.

Ben G

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15th Jun 15 at 14:58

Who's to say you actually received the letter asking for the money back?

£80 for two months tax is clearly wrong, so why didn't you query it at the time?

jamjar15

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15th Jun 15 at 16:22

Didnt promptly cash it, waited 3 weeks for them to realise as i figured thats a fair amount of time, didnt think to wait 3 months lol

Ben G

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15th Jun 15 at 16:27

Do you not own a phone?

Generation

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15th Jun 15 at 16:30

Ffs YOU CAN'T CASH IT. It gets pid into your account and it has to be cleared. Can only cash YOUR OWN cheques, or some given with special information and if bank holds a credit open facility

Fkin retarded denying you've had it.. It's clear to them you have

[Edited on 15-06-2015 by Generation]

Steve

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15th Jun 15 at 16:36

What legal action are they ever going to bother taking over 80 quid

jamjar15

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15th Jun 15 at 16:39

Calm down Generation u understand what we mean by cash it in so whats the problem, also never said I was going to deny it

jamjar15

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15th Jun 15 at 16:45

Yeah thats what I was thinking steve, plus the fact that they said 'may' from the founds of it I think ill just call there bluff

[Edited on 15-06-2015 by jamjar15]

DaveyLC

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16th Jun 15 at 08:03

quote:
Originally posted by Generation
Can only pay in, not cash it.
Soon as ifs in there it can be identified by its serial number. As you can only payninto account holders bank, there's no denying that you've had it

Its irrelevant if they can identify it or not, they have sent him money, its their mistake.

The letter asking for the money back was sent by regular post so there is no proof that he even received it, not to mention he's not even legally bound to return it (as its their mistake).

Brett

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16th Jun 15 at 10:52

quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
not to mention he's not even legally bound to return it (as its their mistake).

Just out of curiosity... why didn't that apply when everyone was overpaid tax credits by mistake and had to pay them back and had collectors at the door, etc?

DaveyLC

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16th Jun 15 at 13:55

quote:
Originally posted by Brett

quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
not to mention he's not even legally bound to return it (as its their mistake).

Just out of curiosity... why didn't that apply when everyone was overpaid tax credits by mistake and had to pay them back and had collectors at the door, etc?

HMRC is a WHOLLEEEE different ball game, there are some specific laws that apply to the HMRC.

Ian

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16th Jun 15 at 17:40

I found a tax disc in a scrapper years ago with a few months on it, knew they only reimburse the keeper but I thought I'd give it a go.

Sent it off with my details, letter comes back saying can only give it to the keeper etc. balance on the disc is forfeited (another DVLA swizz comparable to the current date overlap one but that's another thread)

Heard nothing more until I got a demand like the one above for money back saying I'd had a cheque and I needed to pay it back immediately or face prosecution.

Suffice to say they got a swift phone call telling them to bugger off and they can try

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