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Drew
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how does a charge cooler work?

is it instead of an intercooler or aswell as - im confused :S
StuartVRS
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i wanna know this too
and i also wanna know whether i still need an uprated intercooler or can i just get the chargecooler and if its worth the money
Kris TD
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ive never understood the differencearent they the same thing?. according to my haynes manual it referes to the intercooler as a charge cooler anyway. which makes sense, cos the air is charge cooled in an intercooler. hmm wierd.
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hmm, id give P.T.S a ring drew, ask them, they know what they are talkin about. I would, but im too lazy, here is the number and if ya find out, u2u me

01582 731733

P.S. they are based in luton
Adam
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chargecooler = air-water
intercooler = air-air
John_C
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jus get a bigger intercooler
StuartVRS
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quote:
Originally posted by John_C
jus get a bigger intercooler


yeah, looked at prices for a front mount for mine yesterday John, was rather shocked - 995 quid, and that aint fitted
vibrio
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water cools the inlet charge rather than air. the water is circulated round the cooler and pumped through a small radiator at the front of the car. charge coolers do not have to be as big as intercoolers. problem with charge coolers that once the get heat soak it takes longer for the water to be back at it's most iffecent unlike an intercooler which gets cold very quickly.



you know what an intercooler is like.

[Edited on 09-06-2003 by vibrio]
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so i was right then
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quote:
Originally posted by corsaCsxi
quote:
Originally posted by John_C
jus get a bigger intercooler


yeah, looked at prices for a front mount for mine yesterday John, was rather shocked - 995 quid, and that aint fitted


what have you got by the way
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vibs, audi a3 1.8t
that was from abd, it is made for golf mk4 1.8t but will fit mine
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quote:
Originally posted by corsaCsxi
vibs, audi a3 1.8t
that was from abd, it is made for golf mk4 1.8t but will fit mine



jabba do a chargecooler kit as fitted to their IHI conversions. FMIC's are good but can be very expenisve. you could maybe have a look at a golf GTi TDi 150 intercooler. it is a front mount. also forge so an uprated SMIC also which has got good reviews. one more thing you could do is make the path to the intercooler better
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fairly easy 2 fit i would presume.

a grand though
StuartVRS
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unfortunately, the a3 is not a commonly tuned car so there are very few tuning parts available for it, as i have found out. Most parts are normally sourced from golf, a4 or tt so its a mix and match really. This is why i have been having problems finding a decent cooling system
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Ive got a charge cooler on my c20let. will see it for the right price, since it has not place in my plan.

bout footnhalf long and 10cm high
StuartVRS
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
quote:
Originally posted by corsaCsxi
vibs, audi a3 1.8t
that was from abd, it is made for golf mk4 1.8t but will fit mine



jabba do a chargecooler kit as fitted to their IHI conversions. FMIC's are good but can be very expenisve. you could maybe have a look at a golf GTi TDi 150 intercooler. it is a front mount. also forge so an uprated SMIC also which has got good reviews. one more thing you could do is make the path to the intercooler better


cheers mate, that helps a lot, thanks
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quote:
Originally posted by John_C
fairly easy 2 fit i would presume.

a grand though


not easy to fit, it means relocating the radiator i think...
not 100% sure though
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stu u2u mayb interesting 4 u and cheaper
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luckily for u tho mate the 1.8t is the same engine all across the vag group so mixin and matchin as u say wont matter?
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yup, right there mate, some parts do vary and i have been told i can get a pace fmic from a TT that will fit mine, still a bit overpriced though. Ill have to look into this as ive seen a few tasty bits on ABD for the golf 1.8t that are dead cheap and give great increases, or so they state...
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it's not worth it on it's own really. only when you start pissing around with boost does the bigger interooler seem worth it. for the money your better off with Revo tunning
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i think corsacsxi has increased the boost so there for a bigger intercooler would b
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
it's not worth it on it's own really. only when you start pissing around with boost does the bigger interooler seem worth it. for the money your better off with Revo tunning


now running 1 bar boost on stock turbo

i havent heard of revo tuning though vibs, any info on them or a site i can look at?

i think i should change my name, doesnt really go with the car now.......

[Edited on 09-06-2003 by corsaCsxi]

[Edited on 09-06-2003 by corsaCsxi]
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My dads doin a few mods 2 his gti 1.8t soon and theres 2 chips hes seen. 1 with 40bhp increase and 1 with 50bhp increase. Both give better fuel economy too, hows this work then?!!

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