ffls
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Is this a quality Induction Kit or just crap?
Is it a Cotton Gauze filter?
Opinions please because it's just to cheap
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Martin_C
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i have one, no probs to report so far, nice sound too...
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bazgooch
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One of these dude 
www.powertec.uk.net
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ffls
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So it's oiled cotton gauze?
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Martin_C
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the cone looks the exact same as a K&N, even the same colour...if that helps...
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ffls
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So Race X costs 16 £ in E-BAY plus6£ for the reducer
VIPER X and BMC CDA costs 250£?
How is this possible?
Martin did youl feel an improvement in the engine response?
Thanks
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Martin_C
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mine cost £30 from local shop, same for reducer.
it did help the car yeah, i got some aluminiumised extractor fan ducting from b&q, with a little fettling this makes a sealed cold air feed, with that it defo made a difference, went to local rolling road and said, bar the viper its the best they've seen yet, remember the piperx viper is a tailored kit to the car, this isnt, you either need to cable tie it down or make a bracket, i'm chuffed with it though 
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ffls
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So what reducer did you use Martin?
My car is a 1.4 16v already fitted with a K+N panel filter and two cold air feed, but there's a restriction in the top of the original airbox, so I thinK this
can be improved by the RaceX
Do you have a rolling road graph mate?
Thanks
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Martin_C
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rolling road...nope! i only went in and asked, wasnt paying £30 to see how a 1.2 16v performed!
it was better though...
i used the red reducer, i cant remember the size, when you fit the reducer onto the inlet use some injun oil on it, otherwise you'll wrestle with it all day long.
[Edited on 22-01-2004 by Martin_C]
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Paul_J
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a K&N induction kit is only £50
The viper kit is expensive because it supposedly does something fancy...
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Joff
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You can get a reduction in throttle response and power by removing any air filter from the car completely!
Remember filters are supposed to do just that - FILTER. It's no good having one that sounds great, looks cool and increases power by 20bhp if it's filtering less than 80%
Much better to buy a £25 panel filter than a £16 induction kit if the induction kit's letting all manner of shit into the engine.
If you're driving on contstuction sites or in a dusty environment then you should consider a high quality foam filter or even going back to paper elements.
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Martin_C
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quote:
Originally posted by Joff
You can get a reduction in throttle response and power by removing any air filter from the car completely!
Remember filters are supposed to do just that - FILTER. It's no good having one that sounds great, looks cool and increases power by 20bhp if it's filtering less than 80%
Much better to buy a £25 panel filter than a £16 induction kit if the induction kit's letting all manner of shit into the engine.
If you're driving on contstuction sites or in a dusty environment then you should consider a high quality foam filter or even going back to paper elements.
true, but fuck it.
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
The viper kit is expensive because it supposedly does something fancy...
it does do sumink fancy, it works so much better than a normal piper x one and a drilled air box with k&n panel filter, also its made of carbon fiber so its made of quailty material
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ffls
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Oil the filter with K+N filter oil
Then all th cotton gauze filters should be the same.
And I want a sealed airbox, and not too much noise
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Ryan L
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Race X sounds and looks cheap and nasty and not good for your engine
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Martin_C
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i love the way folk slag things they've never tried...
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Ryan L
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Race X obviously a quality firm make fake discs look really good
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Martin_C
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oooooo i want some!
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ffls
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So Martin do you oil your filter?
If it is
I love ppl that says things lik "it's nasty for the engine" but doesn't even change the oil and filter for an year
And VW now has a TDI engine that only needs to "Change oil every 30 K miles if our quality oil (and only that one:lol is used
It's good for the Turbo rings and Bores
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burt16v
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Exactly why not make ur own version of the viper like im gonna do and as martin C did. All u need to do is get a K&N with a samco hose to put it further from the engine, and get a large diameter alu flexible pipe roughly as wide as the bottom of the filter. attach it to the bottom of the bumper with cable ties or higher up if u want to avoid sucking water up then put the top end of the pipe over the filter and put a jubilee clip round it to seal it and away u go...... a homemade viper and about 5 times cheaper.
Im sure many have this done anyway?
Burt16v
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broster
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it has been done burt, combatprojex has done it i think, wont be quite the same as a viper tho, but will be better than a normal induction kit!
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ffls
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If you oil the filter 95% of all the garbage won't come in
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