csweatherston
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where can steel rollers/ idler pullys be purchased from??..
i know sbd make some, but cannot find them on the site...
also, are steel tensioners available?...or is it best to do away with the tensioner and tension on the waterpump?...
what price do a set of strong valves and harder valve springs go for??
cheers
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ed
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SBD make all the parts you need. You should phone them up rather than looking online.
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csweatherston
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whats there prices like??...would i be better off getting direct from sbd, or going through a local dealer (if there is any)
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quote:
Originally posted by csweatherston
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i know sbd make some, but cannot find them on the site...
try harder
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also, are steel tensioners available?..
yes std ones are steel
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.or is it best to do away with the tensioner and tension on the waterpump?...
what would that achieve
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what price do a set of strong valves and harder valve springs go for??
look on sbds site
cheers
feel free to post some links
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csweatherston
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quote:
Originally posted by csweatherston
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i know sbd make some, but cannot find them on the site...
try harder - ok, you show me what they come under, the clses thing is engine parts which mainly has pistons/rods...
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also, are steel tensioners available?..
yes std ones are steel - are they high tensile steel??...do they have uprated barings - as these are usually the first part to break up...
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.or is it best to do away with the tensioner and tension on the waterpump?...
what would that achieve - look at any trackday vaux engine they all do away with the tensioner, as its floating and if it breaks it will cause damage....tensioning on the pup eliminates tensioner failure.
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what price do a set of strong valves and harder valve springs go for??
look on sbds site - exactl;y which valves and springs??
cheers
cretin!
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Why? It's all on thier site.
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ainsley_brader
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quote:
Originally posted by csweatherston
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also, are steel tensioners available?..
yes std ones are steel - are they high tensile steel??...do they have uprated barings - as these are usually the first part to break up...
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.cretin!
I have never known a vauxhall tensioner fail they certainly arent the first to break up the idlers break up yes the tensioner please
I always speak the truth???? should replace that with "what a crock of shít"
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ainsley_brader
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http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Cranks/Cranks_Seals_Drives_16L.htm
wasnt difficult
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csweatherston
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4.The cam tensioner is made from chocolate.
The standard cam tensioner pulley is plastic and can be breakdown in time, throwing the cambelt. You must replace with an uprated alloy version to be safe.
(copied direct from sbd site...)
cheers for finding the tensioners tho
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csweatherston
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dont worry, ill wait for the appology ainsley
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ainsley_brader
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Dont know where you found that, but if you look at your car i think you will find it is only the idlers which are plastic the tensioner is metal to begin with!
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csweatherston
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*sbd homepage... http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Main.htm
*click the red vaux engine on tb's.
*then next to the red c16 it says 'track and race car magasine' - click it.
it also tells you about the waterpump tensioning.
http://www.sbdev.co.uk/History_files/History_InstantExpert.htm
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csweatherston
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i think ill keep my 'I Speak the truth' sig
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ainsley_brader
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CAM TENSIONER
Uprated cam belt idlers
Price: £70.45
Where: www.sbdev.co.uk
THE vital starting point, even on a standard motor, as it gives total peace of mind at high revs on older engines. Why take the risk of throwing a cambelt and wreaking the engine when a fix is so cheap?
so thats idlers they made the same mistake as you did earlier in the thread when you said "cheers for finding the tensioners though" they are not tensioners they are idlers. There is only one tensioner it is metal.
edited so you dont miss the point 
[Edited on 09-09-2006 by ainsley_brader]
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csweatherston
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nope...that description is on the cambelt tensioner, the 'uprated cambelt idlers' is a link
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Dave A
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what engine spec will you be running?
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csweatherston
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looks like im going to be running a standard (new) bottom end, with a worked head....mantzel, protech 4-1 and dastek chip.....hopine to get the limiter raised up a bit too.
why do u ask dave?
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Dave A
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unless you are going for lairy cams theres no need for uprated valves, valve springs or a fixed tensioner.
will it be used on the road? if so then theres a big downside to the fixed tensioner because you wont be able to use the cambelt cover without cutting 2 big holes in it for the waterpump and tensioner bolt head.
only 'uprated' bits you will really need is the SBD rollers and ARP rod bolts.
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csweatherston
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no, i will be goin for some mild lift cams, thanks dave...thats all i needed to know 
-will the valves and springs not be beneficial tho?..
eliminating valve bounce?
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Dave A
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well if your valves are going to bounce you have got problems
they will be fine. standard springs are fine for mild cams.
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csweatherston
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appreciated...cheers
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alex_gsi
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and if your buying a new bottom end and worked head, why do you want to buy mine or are you just wasting my time?
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Rob_Lee
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SBD
www.sbdev.co.uk
1.6-litre XE
Top of the range package
Price: £12,765.37 (kit)
How does 241bhp and 148lb/ft grab you? The specification of this motor is long, including an MBE970 ECU, dry sump, steel crank and eight injectors.
sex wee
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csweatherston
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alex.....i said wen you find out the postage ill buy it....
haha, i was looking at that 241bhp package.....alot of money tho 
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