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Steve

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5th Jul 10 at 10:42

following on from Ur-a-gay handball? if its going into the net and someone stops it with there hand should the player be sent off and a goal given?

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5th Jul 10 at 10:46

You then have the argument where its not clear if its going in or not and what to give.

IMO a penalty is enough - a professional should be good enough to hit the ball 12 yards in to the net.

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5th Jul 10 at 10:50

Nope.

He was sent off, they got a penalty. Those are the rules. It was his own fault for missing. If he scored nobody would be questioning this.

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5th Jul 10 at 11:25

still a bit unfair though as that was definatly going to be a goal, however a penalty was never going to definatly be a goal, as we saw.

if you had a penalty goal given then it would certainly stop people doing it

Cavey

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5th Jul 10 at 11:32

No, they shouldn't

strick206

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5th Jul 10 at 11:36

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
still a bit unfair though as that was definatly going to be a goal, however a penalty was never going to definatly be a goal, as we saw.

if you had a penalty goal given then it would certainly stop people doing it

Then you get the instance of when someone handballs it from going in, but another guy behind him could have got to it. If they gave a penalty goal in that situation and it knocked a team out the CL World Cup or whatever, there would be uproar

It's better like it is now, if that guy hadn't tried to score a wonder penalty none of this would be thought about

Steve

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5th Jul 10 at 11:37

anyone want a fight?

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5th Jul 10 at 11:38

quote:
Originally posted by strick206

Then you get the instance of when someone handballs it from going in, but another guy behind him could have got to it.

We already have similar situations. The ref has to decide on last man for red card fouls he can decide on last man for penalty goal.

The number of times this happens is VERY few but when it does happen every one I have seen has been a clear hand ball so would not be hard to ref

Nath

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5th Jul 10 at 12:05

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfcNKMdb_0

Should this be given as a goal when its similar but lacks the intent that Suarez had?

Steve

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5th Jul 10 at 12:07

yes m8 u?

lolz

Nath

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5th Jul 10 at 12:10

Steve

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5th Jul 10 at 12:17

anymore thoughts on this

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5th Jul 10 at 12:19

You're an idiot

Rob_Quads

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5th Jul 10 at 12:20

quote:
Originally posted by Nath
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfcNKMdb_0

Should this be given as a goal when its similar but lacks the intent that Suarez had?

Yes he should have gone IF the ref throught it was on purpose, which he did.

If it was accidental then it was not a pen thus it does not come into it.

Nath

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5th Jul 10 at 12:22

The game doesnt need more interpretations made by a ref IMO.

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5th Jul 10 at 12:41

quote:
Originally posted by Nath
The game doesnt need more interpretations made by a ref IMO.

End of discussion

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strick206

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5th Jul 10 at 12:41

JonnyJ for Mod

JonnyJ

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5th Jul 10 at 12:43

LETcavmadGSI would not like that to happen i believe.

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5th Jul 10 at 14:32

Imagine the abuse Suarez would get in the final if they got there?

He would go to pieces;
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