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Cosmo
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2nd Jul 07 at 18:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
OK, craig_brux asked if I could figure out a decent spec for a PC on a smallish budget that would be easily upgradable in the future. Just wanted some comments on this set-up....

Case: Enermax CA3030
PSU: 430w Seasonic S12-430
MoBo: Gigabyte GA-945PL-S3
CPU: Intel Core2Duo E4300
Memory: 2x 512MB Corsair PC2-4200
Graphics: Connect3D Radeon X1900GT
HDD: 120GB Western Digital WD1200JS
DVD Burner: Asus DRW-1608P3S
CPU Cooler: Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro

Comes to about £445 on Scan.co.uk but could possibly find some of them cheaper elsewhere (dont forget to factor in the extra shipping charges from various places though).

Also doesnt include a screen, keyboard and mouse so would have to factor them in ontop too.
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for XP? looks alright. would maybe squeez in a bigger hard drive
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120gig would be fine for me. only got 40 now. how much we talking for more storage space?like 300gig?
Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
for XP? looks alright. would maybe squeez in a bigger hard drive


actually mean to put that!

If your after more for downloading, etc. than gaming then cut down on the graphics card and go for a bigger HDD.
Cosmo
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2nd Jul 07 at 18:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
the 150GB is £32, 250GB is £10 more.
Jamescorsa97
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2nd Jul 07 at 19:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Wait 20 more days.

Intel price drop nd july

The you can fit the bigger HD in
Cosmo
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is that due to the new CPU range theve got coming out?
topshot_2k
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yep
Cosmo
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when are they due then? As not seen a date mentioned yet.
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no date, but AMDs new ones are August, im guessing Intel will try and beat this
Cosmo
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Any specs on what AMD are targeting? I know Intel are going for 1,333MHz FSB CPUs and DDR3 support.
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2nd Jul 07 at 19:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Nope,

AMD's new oes are only due for servers in August, they will be october november for desktop.

The new Intel chips will be available 22nd july. A quad core will be available for £150 then.
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AMD's new core Barcelona will be "True quad core" Meaning 2 duals cores stuck together where as Intels chip is 4 die's together.

It will have its advantages. But Intel also have The penryn and nahelm to come out which has 8 cores.

I hope AMD can produce because they are lagging in the GPU market badly
Jamescorsa97
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Sapphire ATI Radeon X1950 Pro 256MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail £79.99
(£93.99) £79.99
(£93.99)
Samsung SH-S183ABEBN 18x18 DVD±RW Dual Layer Serial ATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.50
(£19.39) £16.50
(£19.39)
Western Digital Caviar RE 160GB 1600YS SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM £33.99
(£39.94) £33.99
(£39.94)
Antec NeoHE 430W Modular ATX2.0 PSU £49.99
(£58.74) £49.99
(£58.74)
Lian-Li PC-7 PLUS Aluminium Midi-Tower Case - Black £45.99
(£54.04) £45.99
(£54.04)
GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400C5 800MHz Value DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX22GB6400DC) £46.99
(£55.21) £46.99
(£55.21)
Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA (Socket 775) PCI-Express/AGP DDR2 Motherboard £39.99
(£46.99) £39.99
(£46.99)
Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 "LGA775 Allendale" 2.00GHz (800FSB) - Retail £73.99
(£86.94) £73.99
(£86.94)

Comes to £458

Not bad!
topshot_2k
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i too hope AMD pick up. They are on their arse right now.

new intels will be awesome chips.
Cosmo
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2nd Jul 07 at 22:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
that mobo is a bit shocking though. If he wants it easily upgradable in the future when he gets more cash then thats going to hinder things!

[Edited on 02-07-2007 by Cosmo]
John
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Do people still upgrade these days?

I don't even think about that now.
Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by John
Do people still upgrade these days?

I don't even think about that now.


if your starting on a limited budget and can only afford to do it in stages then yes.

If your going out and spending a fair wack in the first place then I doubt their is much need to upgrade unless you are a serious gamer/need it for work/an extremely great piece of new tech comes out.
Jamescorsa97
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The thing is Cosmo, in about a year socket 775 will be on it's backside. AMD are making their new CPU's work with AM2 as well as releasing AM3 plus DDR3 is soon to hit the shelves. There is never a good time yo upgrade and i see it as a waste of time.

John is right.

You may as well buy your best bang for buck first off.
Jamescorsa97
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quote:
Originally posted by Jamescorsa97
Sapphire ATI Radeon X1950 Pro 256MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail £79.99
(£93.99) £79.99
(£93.99)
Samsung SH-S183ABEBN 18x18 DVD±RW Dual Layer Serial ATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.50
(£19.39) £16.50
(£19.39)
Western Digital Caviar RE 160GB 1600YS SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM £33.99
(£39.94) £33.99
(£39.94)
Antec NeoHE 430W Modular ATX2.0 PSU £49.99
(£58.74) £49.99
(£58.74)
Lian-Li PC-7 PLUS Aluminium Midi-Tower Case - Black £45.99
(£54.04) £45.99
(£54.04)
GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400C5 800MHz Value DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX22GB6400DC) £46.99
(£55.21) £46.99
(£55.21)
Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA (Socket 775) PCI-Express/AGP DDR2 Motherboard £39.99
(£46.99) £39.99
(£46.99)
Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 "LGA775 Allendale" 2.00GHz (800FSB) - Retail £73.99
(£86.94) £73.99
(£86.94)

Comes to £458

Not bad!
also if he can stretch get this board

That is for the future!

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-086-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=913
N3CRO
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3rd Jul 07 at 02:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
A couple of years ago, I built this for £500.

Specs from what I can remember :
AMD Athlon XP 2400+ CPU
1.1GB DDR RAM
DFI Lan Party MB
128MB Radeon Graphics Card
120GB HDD

Was pretty good spec at the time.




[Edited on 03-07-2007 by Necromancer]
gunzi
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Get a better CPU, that one is scraping the bottom of the core 2 duo barrel - not a conroe core. Personally I'd go AM2 with a X2 4600. I'd also get 1 x 1GB if he wants to upgrade, so he's not using up 2 slots.
Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by gunzi
Get a better CPU, that one is scraping the bottom of the core 2 duo barrel - not a conroe core.


It is a conroe core!
Richie
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3rd Jul 07 at 11:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Errr, no its an Allendale....
Cosmo
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Not sure what Ive been reading then as says its a conroe

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