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Vaux Lad

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30th Jul 07 at 18:57

Did the compression build up quickly? Or take a while and keep raising each time the engine turns over?

gavin18787

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30th Jul 07 at 18:59

it built up quickly but raised each time the engine turned over until a certain point

Drives supercharged Tec with torque

Jake

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30th Jul 07 at 19:02

the compression is pretty high? Thats almost max reading on my compression tester

gavin18787

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30th Jul 07 at 19:03

what did yours read jake? if you can remember

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Jake

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30th Jul 07 at 19:04

160psi across all four cranking the engine for a couple of seconds

Vaux Lad

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30th Jul 07 at 19:04

Was the engine cold or hot?

gavin18787

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30th Jul 07 at 19:09

I think when we tested mine it was fairly warm

Drives supercharged Tec with torque

richysport

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30th Jul 07 at 22:42

sorry to jump in the tread but how do you do both these tests

Vaux Lad

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30th Jul 07 at 23:56

Get a tester, it just screws into the spark plug hole.

gavin18787

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31st Jul 07 at 20:47

How much is it in parts to do the piston rings? and if the stem seals are fairly cheap would it be worth doing to be on the safe side?

Drives supercharged Tec with torque

Dave A

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31st Jul 07 at 20:57

rings are about £80+ a set, stem seals are £16 a set.

get a leakdown test done, that will determine where the leak is as opposed to trying to see if there is actually a leak.

plus a normal compression test isnt a sure sign of the rings being worn as it only tests the 2 top rings, the oil control ring could be damaged and seeping oil through the two top rings and burning on the bores.

Warren G

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31st Jul 07 at 21:00

rings are £81
Shells are £31

steam seals are £4 from me

it is a truff tbh what to do

Dave A

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31st Jul 07 at 21:02

what stem seals are £4 (what make) ? I pay £8 a set on trade!

Warren G

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31st Jul 07 at 21:06

ones in my tools box! they come in head gasket sets, so they just go in my box

and there vauxhall ones

http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=329427

[Edited on 31-07-2007 by warren.g]

Dave A

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31st Jul 07 at 21:08

I never trust the stem seals in HG sets unless they are Payen or FAI kits.

Warren G

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31st Jul 07 at 21:09

what even vauxhall ones? why?

gavin18787

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1st Aug 07 at 17:57

Well the next step il take is to get a leak test done. Dave could youe explain what this actually involves?

Drives supercharged Tec with torque

gavin18787

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18th Aug 07 at 12:11

quote:
Originally posted by gavin18787
Well the next step il take is to get a leak test done. Dave could youe explain what this actually involves?

Just digging this up

Going to try and get a leak down test done somewhere local. Just wanted a few details on what it involves and how it works before I phone around.
So I can kind of pretend i know what i want

Short story is that i want to know if my piston rings are ok or not.

Drives supercharged Tec with torque

RCS

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18th Aug 07 at 17:28

You fill the cylinder with compressed air, and it will leak out. You then listen to see where it is leaking out and this indicates what is worn. To find out if its piston rings take the dipstick out.

RCS

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18th Aug 07 at 17:31

http://www.xs11.com/tips/misc/misc3.shtml

gavin18787

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18th Aug 07 at 17:43

cheers RCS

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gsirick

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18th Aug 07 at 18:22

my gsi is using oil and smoking when cold and stops when warm but smokes past 6000rpm (blue smoke) and the tappets/lifters make a noise aswell, and get worse when the oil is low

what test would i need to have done?

[Edited on 18-08-2007 by gsirick]

Jake

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18th Aug 07 at 18:23

quote:
Originally posted by gsirick
my gsi is using oil and smoking when cold and stops when warm but smokes past 6000rpm (blue smoke) and the tappets/lifters make a noise aswell, and get worse when the oil is low

what test would i need to have done?

[Edited on 18-08-2007 by gsirick]

stem seals

Warren G

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18th Aug 07 at 18:25

quote:
Originally posted by gsirick
my gsi is using oil and smoking when cold and stops when warm but smokes past 6000rpm (blue smoke) and the tappets/lifters make a noise aswell, and get worse when the oil is low

what test would i need to have done?

[Edited on 18-08-2007 by gsirick]

this is signs of rings gone, but gavin's doesn't seem to smoke, but burns alot of oil