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Author Performance of an C20XE in a corsa b
eastend
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I currently have a 1.6 sport engine in my car with a few mods so its probably running around 115bhp!

I am thinking of changing it to a redtop engine as i can do it myself so shouldnt cost too much, all im wondering is is it worth it?

Is the performance increase big, noticeable from a 1.6 sport?

What sort of 0-60 times can be produced from a standard redtop in a corsa b? Top speed? And what cars can they stay alongside?


Many thanks

Tom_Vick
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I've just finished running mine in and have already embarassed quite a few cars in mine.

Stuck up the arse of a 09 Focus ST to 110 then he decided to get out of my way.
Played with a Golf GTi turbo, Could see him miffed at not being able to shake off a crappy Corsa.
Also wasted a Mondeo ST24, Audi A3 1.8T.

I've only been putting my foot down for the last 3-4 weeks

0-60 I have no idea.
eastend
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Nice to hear mate is this in standard form?
Terry12
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Not fully standard.
Got a ported and polished head along with uprated cams and a decat pipe but standard they're still a great weapon.
I never really liked Corsa' and only bought mine because it was cheap and a good base for a project, But I love it now as it's so much fun.
Ellis
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1.0 Corsa

Due to it having a beefed MAF
philip2
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fair play terry, nice to hear it goes well
Kevxx
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quote:
Originally posted by Terry12
I never really liked Corsa' and only bought mine because it was cheap and a good base for a project, But I love it now as it's so much fun.


i was the exact same, hated them, now i love them, the xe did this to me!

ohh from the blasts i've had againest my mates 1.6 it comes no where near!
Terry12
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quote:
Originally posted by philip2
fair play terry, nice to hear it goes well


Goes really well bud. There's not been any smoke since I did the breather mod
Ellis
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I can't wait to have one that runs properly FFS
philip2
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thank fook, i was thinking wtf had i done wrong!

glad its going well...just want to get my shed built now!
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I have no idea what it is/was but it hasn't done it for a week now so see how it goes.

philip2
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good news then
corsa120
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there is a massive difference compared to 1.6 engine, they are extremely revvy compared and the torque is hugely apparent from the off.....

ive got mine stripped at the rear ans few lightened bits like carbon bonnet etc/ alloy brakes etc all to help with weight over the wheels etc etc as i did'nt want to spend money on the engine tuning it as i think 150bhp from the c20xe is plenty....

0-60 not that it matters in mine seems to be around 6-6.5 secs, 7 with wheelspin lol, top speed well mine goes off the clock at 130 odd but id expect it to top out at 135 odd mph...

but who cares about top speed you dont need it unless your thing is to rag up and dual carriageways which will end your licence holding

they pull great in high gears so good for twisty A/B roads...........

ive had tussles with so many things since i owned mine, held off an m3 down short straight he was not happy, almost same as my mates civic type r, not much quicker than my mates 106 gti, annoyed a rover tomcat owner, astra gsi which i own too lol etc etc
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1.6 is gutless in my eyes, they make a lot of noise but you never go very fast.

2.0 16v is quite nippy, but you'll only be on par with most modern hot hatches.

C20LET is where it's at, if you're going to the bother of a big block swap, do it properly.
Terry12
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quote:
Originally posted by Partyvan
1.6 is gutless in my eyes, they make a lot of noise but you never go very fast.

2.0 16v is quite nippy, but you'll only be on par with most modern hot hatches.

C20LET is where it's at, if you're going to the bother of a big block swap, do it properly.


I've got to disagree, Most modern hot hatches weigh more than a Corsa b so an XE Corsa does have an advantage. I've not had trouboe with anything modern yet.
I'm still waiting to come up against a Clio.

A let done properly costs way more than an xe.
Partyvan
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quote:
Originally posted by Terry12
quote:
Originally posted by Partyvan
1.6 is gutless in my eyes, they make a lot of noise but you never go very fast.

2.0 16v is quite nippy, but you'll only be on par with most modern hot hatches.

C20LET is where it's at, if you're going to the bother of a big block swap, do it properly.


I've got to disagree, Most modern hot hatches weigh more than a Corsa b so an XE Corsa does have an advantage. I've not had trouboe with anything modern yet.
I'm still waiting to come up against a Clio.

A let done properly costs way more than an xe.


I'm on about things like a Civic Type-R, or Clio 192 which are actually a fast car unlike a Vauxhall Corsa

Not just in a straight line either, I'm on about handling, steering response, braking, shell rigidity etc, there is nothing special about an average XE Corsa in any of those respects, whereas a C20LET genuinely will beat most things on the road (in a straight line only though, generally)
Ellis
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I don't think the cost of doing a LET conversion is justifyable, for the cost I would rather have another car TBH
Terry12
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quote:
Originally posted by Partyvan
quote:
Originally posted by Terry12
quote:
Originally posted by Partyvan
1.6 is gutless in my eyes, they make a lot of noise but you never go very fast.

2.0 16v is quite nippy, but you'll only be on par with most modern hot hatches.

C20LET is where it's at, if you're going to the bother of a big block swap, do it properly.


I've got to disagree, Most modern hot hatches weigh more than a Corsa b so an XE Corsa does have an advantage. I've not had trouboe with anything modern yet.
I'm still waiting to come up against a Clio.

A let done properly costs way more than an xe.


I'm on about things like a Civic Type-R, or Clio 192 which are actually a fast car unlike a Vauxhall Corsa

Not just in a straight line either, I'm on about handling, steering response, braking, shell rigidity etc, there is nothing special about an average XE Corsa in any of those respects, whereas a C20LET genuinely will beat most things on the road (in a straight line only though, generally)


Agreed as standard the handling of the 2 cars you mention is better than a Corsa, But with a good suspension kit they can keep up on the twisties.
Also the 2 cars you mention have 190+ bhp whereas an XE only has 150.
With a few mods you could get 170 bhp and I reckon the only difference between an XE Corsa and a Type r or Clio 192 would be driver skill.

philip2
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my mates xe corsa used to sit on ctr and 182 clio arses.

my mates 400bhp corsa LET goes very well in a straight line and very well round bends, so saying there not very good in a straight line isnt 100% true.

and i know my corsa will handle better than the clio and the CTR
craig_s
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quote:
Originally posted by Ellis
I don't think the cost of doing a LET conversion is justifyable, for the cost I would rather have another car TBH


how can you say that when my corsa which owes me about 3k will beat 30k+ cars?

corsa redtop will be about the same if not a tad bit quicker than a ctr (mine was anyway) as for the clios i can't as i never raced one.

[Edited on 30-06-2009 by craig_s]
philip2
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my mates corsa LET drilled a 993 or 997 turbo on way down to PV, the lad couldnt even look at him
craig_s
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i nailed a carrera the other day he didnt look to impressed.
john_c20xe
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa120
there is a massive difference compared to 1.6 engine, they are extremely revvy compared and the torque is hugely apparent from the off.....

ive got mine stripped at the rear ans few lightened bits like carbon bonnet etc/ alloy brakes etc all to help with weight over the wheels etc etc..

alloy brakes wont reduce weight over the wheels as its unsprung wieght,
corsa120
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never said they would but they must help with the way the wheels turn in even if its un-noticable, weight if my 4-pots compared to my old v6 brakes is rediculous
john_c20xe
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yeh every little helps. light wieght wheels

 
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