wrighty_1989
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just bin looking at calibra and there seems to be 2 types of 16v engine c20xe and the 2.0 ecotec anyone know what the difference is
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dan_almond
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the ecotec one has less power than the c20xe. 130bhp odd i think?
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powey
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plus more sensors on it
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wrighty_1989
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am i right in thinking the ecotec is the newer engine or not and also is it possible to fit it in a corsa?
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powey
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yes its the newer engine and i beleive it fits
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wrighty_1989
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cheers guys anyone know whether it possible to make it as quick as the xe as i can get one one for cheap and thinking bout doing a conversion!
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willhouse
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quote:
Originally posted by wrighty_1989
cheers guys anyone know whether it possible to make it as quick as the xe as i can get one one for cheap and thinking bout doing a conversion!
yes you can make it as quick as an xe. check out the SBD website for tuning on the ecotec
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wrighty_1989
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cheers great help!
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DAZ1985
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Money tuning an ECOTEC to be as quick as an XE is a WASTE IMO, start with an XE and spend the same amount of money tuning that as appossed to an ECOTEC and it will be a much better result.
Only down side i suppose is age and condition.
But then ECOTEC hav far to many sensors than whats needed so problems still occur
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topshot_2k
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ecotecs can be made to the same power as non ecotec easily. just remove all the EGR shite etc
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DAZ1985
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Thiers more to it than that im sure
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topshot_2k
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Ecotec were built to meet new emissions regs. the engines and internals are exactly the same except the bits for emissions control etc
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Ste L
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conversions the same, both xe or eco..
different head, smaller ports or something etc etc, built to meet the emissions requirement as said..
still very tunable, more sensors to go wrong than xe's, but newer engine, so power will probably be on par with most xe, due tyo age...
can be picked up very very cheap too, as not as slought after as xe's
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Ben ev
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every component on this engines crap
e c o t e c
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Vaux Lad
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134bhp as std.
There decent engines, ok they have a few problems with sensors playing up, i'd rather replace a sensor than a XE cylinder head thats porous tho 
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wrighty_1989
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i think ill be origanal and have a bash at fitting the ecotec then cheers guys! much appreciated!
[Edited on 06-03-2007 by wrighty_1989]
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ainsley_brader
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two people have said the ecotec has more sensors than the red top so can someone give me an example?
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Ste L
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quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
134bhp as std.
There decent engines, ok they have a few problems with sensors playing up, i'd rather replace a sensor than a XE cylinder head thats porous tho
xe head's only go porus due to people over-tightening the head bolts
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ainsley_brader
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quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
134bhp as std.
There decent engines, ok they have a few problems with sensors playing up, i'd rather replace a sensor than a XE cylinder head thats porous tho
xe head's only go porus due to people over-tightening the head bolts
Is that a proven fact?
How can a head go porous on an engine that hasn't been touched in the past?
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Robin
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Has anyone who has slated ecotec engines actually thought about what they're saying, or is it just because you think you're right?
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topshot_2k
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robin did you not post something that showed tht even the 'non ecotec' GSi engines were actually early Ecotecs?
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Robin
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yeah, and they're all good, or people wouldn't be getting 200bhp + from a 1.6 
The X20XEV is just as good as the C20XE, people just think it isn't...
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ainsley_brader
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
Has anyone who has slated ecotec engines actually thought about what they're saying, or is it just because you think you're right?
Most of them heard someone say it!
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