Vaux Lad
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Something along the lines of kent/piper 250s, on std pistons and management.
How does it run? as good idle as std etc?
Did they make any power/torque difference?
Or are they not worth it.
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Robin
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I wouldn't bother with a 250, standards are 244, so it's just not worth the effort.
If you're going to do it, go for a 264.
It'll still run as well, but the power curve will move up the rev range.
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Vaux Lad
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Ahh right, ok mate.
Cousin has a x16xe, std atm.
And was offered a cheap set of kent cams(£90 iirc), but there only 244deg duration.
No doubt they'll have more lift than std items tho.
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Robin
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Sorry, standard are 241deg with 8.45mm lift, the Kent (COR1601) ones are 244deg with 8.50mm lift, so not much in it tbh 
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Vaux Lad
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Hmm, 0.05mm more lift,lol
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Scotty C
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Wont the 264's be lumpy on tick over?
But as Robn said, go for the 264's, any bigger and you'll need pocketed pistons 
[Edited on 07-04-2007 by Monster]
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Robin
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264s will be fine on tickover, 288s aren't lumpy, so 264s definitely aren't
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Scotty C
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Damn  
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Vaux Lad
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I already have the 244 kents, got them cheap. Might flog them on and get some 264s then.
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Scotty C
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Pending how much it is to get your pistons pocketed? Get some 280's 
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Vaux Lad
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On std management?
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Robin
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Well, you could do
264s would be better though, with a remap preferably.
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quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
On std management?
no chance
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Vaux Lad
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Lol, aye, i didn't think std management would like 280s much, lol.
Done a bit of asearching, and have read its pretty pointless having cams on std pistons/management.
So might just run std for now.
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Scotty C
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It better not be 
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Vaux Lad
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Apparently so.
Just gains maybe 3/4bhp at the top of the rev range, that rarely gets used on the road.
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Scotty C
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It all depends if you're using veriners, how well the cams are dialed in and how good the map is IMO. Dave gained 14bhp with cams on his X16.
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Vaux Lad
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Was that on the x16 inlet tho? Or TBs?
What cams were they
[Edited on 07-04-2007 by Vaux Lad]
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Robin
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He gained 14bhp with cams and a map, with TBs IIRC, but it may have been with his Mantzel box 
I wouldn't say it's 'not worth it' on standard management, every little helps, but you won't see the gains you would with TBs.
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Vaux Lad
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Might as well wack them in then, got them for cheap enough anyway
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