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DaNnY_LaD
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26th Sep 07 at 08:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Im gettin a C20Xe engine of beardy and ive already got the full fitting kit...

But if i go with twin webbers 45s full set up,omega pistons,Unichip(raise Rev limiter),2.25 exhaust bore,de-cat,ARP Bolts,and Cams....(Depending on what sort)

What bhp would i be looking at? and possibley what Bhp/ton...Car wont be strip...but wont have no massive build in it either...

Also i was gonna replace all the sensors but ive heard u dnt need all the sensors are im goin from a EFI to a Carb is that right?

[Edited on 26-09-2007 by DaNnY_LaD]
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really depends on the cams you go for. I would say you will see 170 with standard cams, 180 with better ones.

budget for some decent spark management rather than a dizzy and coil. makes living with carbs much easier.
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power to weight could be anything from 170-200bhp per ton depending on whether its a base model corsa or a fat overweight GSI.
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for a c20xe weight measurement take the weight of a standard corsa sport and add 60kg.
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so about a ton then......ish
DaNnY_LaD
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so 1000kg to 170bhp?

Dave when you say depending on cams...Do i have to have Pocketed piston or what ever it is...
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depends what cam you go for.
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quote:
Originally posted by DaNnY_LaD
so 1000kg to 170bhp?




Not sure what the question is but 1000kg to 170bhp, is 170bhp per ton. You will need to change the pistons in order to run an decent cams really.
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or just pocket the standard ones if you are on a budget
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yep I only did a similiar thing with my turbo pistons lol an they are still working.
Nic Barnes
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i have base model gsi no sunroof no electric nothing, it was on weigh bridge as it is now at 891kg's

seem about right?
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yeah that seems about right as you have ripped stuff out as well. Dont want to weigh mine as i keep having to add crap little things in that all add up like ecu bracket, extra fuel lines, two tanks two pumps ect...
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Would a Decent set of cams and some Twin webbers 40s be alright been offered a Full set up for cheap...
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40s are too small, you want 45s if your looking for an increase in power
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45's will be ideal. 40's are ok for the power you are looking for though
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So with 40's,cams,De-cat,unichip,2.25 bore what would i expect?

I knw i cant have massive power with the budget ive got...But pointless till mid nxted year

[Edited on 26-09-2007 by DaNnY_LaD]
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about 160-170 at a push
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oh also you cant "chip" a car on carbs
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quote:
Originally posted by phil_sutton
oh also you cant "chip" a car on carbs


oright never new that..

Thanks Phil

yeah id be happy with 160-170bhp tbh...Wots the bhp/ton with that figure with a xe corsa sport with Pas and No aircon!
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as a very rough guess, whatever bhp it makes is whatever bhp/tonne it is with it being a std car and heavier engine.
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but if i got for 40s what type shall i go for...As ive been told dnt just got buy a set of 40s...as the chokes ect are different im clueless on theses as this all new to me
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aslo with gsi shafts be alright with twin 40s....will they handle it?
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quote:
Originally posted by DaNnY_LaD
aslo with gsi shafts be alright with twin 40s....will they handle it?


The car will drive but id get some big block shafts or conversion shafts from chrisastleymotorsport.

GSi shafts i wouild expect to snap.
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Ive been running GSI shafts and over 400lbft of torque and never broken one...............discuss
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less strain due to normal size wheels and the wheelspin factor takin initial strain off them...........no idea

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