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Sam
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28th Sep 08 at 14:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I am thinking that the electrics in our house are somewhat ancient. We can find the main on/off switch for the electrics but there appears to be no fusebox/trip switches/"consumer unit"?

We asked the landlord and the estate agents, and they don't know either...



Is this type of wiring safe/legal?

[Edited on 28-09-2008 by Sam]
AndyKent
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28th Sep 08 at 14:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm no expert on what you've got above but do know that you should have an RCD protected consumer board which you don't appear to have above.
Sam
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28th Sep 08 at 14:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

That's what I was thinking.

The landlord asked me to speak to my neighbours and find out what wiring setup they have, I'm like what's the point in that, everyone isn't going to have the same wiring setup as us PMSL!
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28th Sep 08 at 15:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The landlord should be responsible for making sure the electric system is safe.

It'll come back on them if, for instance, the wiring is faulty and the house burns down.

They should contact an electrician for a landlords electrical safety test/certificate and the electrician will tell them whats wrong and what to do about it
ash_corsa
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There is no requirement for an RCD mate, only if its been rewired or modified since 16th.17th edition came in. Im not sure about rented accomodation though, i think its just got to be safe.

Does look very old and id say its definitely in need of rewiring or at the very very least a new consumer unit with MCB/RCD protection.
Get a qualified spark to come round and take a look, most will give you a free quote/advice.

Meter/meter tails dont look very old

[Edited on 28-09-2008 by ash_corsa]
C2RL R
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29th Sep 08 at 08:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

whats the rule on rented properties though? i know if it was privately owned then there is no requirement for an rcd but there may be if its rented. i'm a sparky but i've not done any domestic work for over 8 years so i'm not up to speed on current regulations.
i'd be demanding a full inspection and test on that lot tbh.
if you are looking for fuses i would imagine they are inside that box with the switch on it.
AndyKent
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I'm not 100% on the regulations, but I know that all the rented properties our company manages MUST have RCD protection - whether the client (they're all owned by one) says that or the law though I'm not sure.
mattk
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29th Sep 08 at 14:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Only fuse I can see there is the big black ( 60amp? ) fuse before the meter

I manged to blow one the other week
C2RL R
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there will be fuses behind the cover of the box with the switch.
ash_corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by mattk
Only fuse I can see there is the big black ( 60amp? ) fuse before the meter

I manged to blow one the other week


bet that went bang!

im also a spark, but again im not into domestic, shouldnt the fuses be accessible without opening the cover?
eitherway, ask questions and get it looked at, wether it requires and RCD or not you have the right to ask to get it looked at, i wouldnt like to live in a house without adequate electrical fault protection.
C2RL R
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my house had re-wireable fuses and they were in a box with a cover. there was a screw holding the cover in place. you will have to go back a very long time to see a wiring system where the circuits are not individually protected with their own fuses. this is why i'm saying they will be inside that box.
Sam
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I think the house was built in the 1960s/70s.

We have told our landlord about it and he claims he will be sending out a qualified electrician to come out and inspect it, when that will happen is anybody's guess.

I had to phone up the estate agent the other day and ask for a copy of the Corgi gas safety certificate as we weren't given one when we moved in (by law we are supposed to, apparently).

Ho hum.
scottmmw
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they must be shitty re-wireable fuses. my sisters flat had electrics which looked similar to that.

 
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