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deano87
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29th May 13 at 22:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Admittedly this was a retweet from @UberFacts on Twitter, but it said using your phone whilst it's charging damages the battery hence why new charger cables are short.

Any truth in it?
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29th May 13 at 22:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Have used my phone a fair bit whilst on charge and never noticed any changes in performance!

Shorter cables probably just save them 1p a go!
John
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29th May 13 at 22:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

With older technology batteries it may have affected the life but it's mainly rubbish with recent (past few years) phones.
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29th May 13 at 22:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Your charging it wrong.
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Depends on the battery type but the basic answer is yes.

A full charge has a number of stages, firstly high initial voltage in which current draw will rise as the charge is taken, then when current draw converges the voltage will drop off for a trickle stage.

If you draw current while that is going on, you introduce mini charge cycles which affect the ability to battery to fully charge and discharge.

Not sure if there's much data on it and whether being a user who frequently does it or never does it would appreciably affect the lifespan of the device but the principles are correct.

It'll also produce heat and while the dangers of damage through overcharging etc. are largely managed by the charger, its also safer not to have it next to your head while its being charged.
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29th May 13 at 23:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I keep mine under me pillow
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quote:
Originally posted by Jay
I keep mine under me pillow


if i do that the phone gets red hot
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30th May 13 at 10:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My phone is on charge all night, get to work, goes on charge all day, get home use the latop and plug the phone in, go to bed, put phone on charge. My battery must be fucked.
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30th May 13 at 10:18   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Why plug it in when your at work?
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30th May 13 at 10:38   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I assumed iPhone chargers were so damn short just so they could sting you another £20 for an extension lead
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30th May 13 at 10:41   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

New Samsung ones are just as bad tbh
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Stick phone on airplane mode because it charges quicker. Less searching for a signal.
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Why not just switch the whole thing off in that case?
Jay
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quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
quote:
Originally posted by Jay
I keep mine under me pillow


if i do that the phone gets red hot


It does, but I haven't got a bedside table
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30th May 13 at 15:10   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Kindle cables are the way forward for charging a Andriod phone, they are miles long!
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30th May 13 at 15:11   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Jay
quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
quote:
Originally posted by Jay
I keep mine under me pillow


if i do that the phone gets red hot


It does, but I haven't got a bedside table

I remember when mobiles caused brain cancer.
Jay
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quote:
Originally posted by Brett
quote:
Originally posted by Jay
quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
quote:
Originally posted by Jay
I keep mine under me pillow


if i do that the phone gets red hot


It does, but I haven't got a bedside table

I remember when mobiles caused brain cancer.


Me too I must be on the verge of death
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30th May 13 at 17:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Brett
Why not just switch the whole thing off in that case?


Dont have to wait on it shutting down or starting back up by doing it the airplane way.
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quote:
Originally posted by sc0ott
quote:
Originally posted by Brett
Why not just switch the whole thing off in that case?


Dont have to wait on it shutting down or starting back up by doing it the airplane way.


I do the same every night to save battery. Starting the phone up is reasonably CPU, and in turn, battery intensive.

Regarding the OP and li-ion batteries, i've always been told/read that you're suppose to do 'shallow' charges rather than continuous charging and keeping the battery topped up as that hinders battery performance. Similarly, you shouldn't continuously discharge and charge as it places a lot of stress on li-ions.

Edit - Quick Google threw this up - http://phys.org/news/2013-04-memory-effect-lithium-ion-batteries.html
I always assumed there wasn't a memory effect with li-ions......

[Edited on 30-05-2013 by Dom]
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30th May 13 at 18:21   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What if you just left the charger in and booted it whilst you were getting ready or somethin?
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I leave my phone on airplane over night so that i can use my alarms and i know if i left it on 5% i would wake up and itll still be on 5%. I get up and whack the charger in. If i started pissing about turning it off etc i would be late for work probably.
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My phone is strange. Sometimes when it is charging on my non-HTC charger at the girlfriends the phone goes really laggy and the touchscreen barely works

 
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