wainey
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which would you advise, want more power but can't decised which to have.
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miles
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Registered: 25th Mar 02
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If your not bothered about looks go for the torque tube and save some money. If you have the money to spend go for the velos induction system (Same price as mantzel)
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wainey
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its for my mate, what actually gives the best power gains? i know they both really do the same thing, hes just after power though and isnt bothered about looks, i told him about the torq tube as it suits to more what he wants to spend.
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purple_B
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velos,been there done that got the grin 2 prove it,plus there nice guys 2 deal with aswell.
they set aside a hour 2 have a look @my girlfriends car and did a power run on it and didnt even charge us for it.
top guys full stop.
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wainey
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sound thats all he needs to know then! 
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miles
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About the same power. Although the tubular induction system from velos will give more.
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ffls
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Registered: 29th May 02
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Choose Velos. Mantzel service sucks!!
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Wolf In Welsh Clothing
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My choice would be:-
£30 get a panel filter + drill airbox
£300 fit a velos torque tube urself
£500 pay some1 to fit a torque tube
£1100 pay for a plenum and unichip to be fitted (what i did)
£2000+ pay for throttle boddies to be fitted + mapped.
Got £100 left over? Get a de-cat.
Got £1000s left? Decide turbo or cams route.
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vibrio
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unichip does not really improve peak power by much but does improve the mid range.
this is the dbalis (sp) system on a GSi compared to a GSi
this is a befroe and after UNICHIP on the same car
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wainey
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the cars already got a 4 branch and decat, just wants that little extra power, cheers 4 that graph vibs, least now i got something to show him the difference! i love you
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Daimo B
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Dbalis system is pants though 
I like Mantzel, but not heard a bad thing about Velos either yet 
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
Dbalis system is pants though
I like Mantzel, but not heard a bad thing about Velos either yet
this based on what Mr B. please look at the graphs above. 20hp at the wheels extra is not pants is it
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miles
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Registered: 25th Mar 02
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Doesn't the dblias system cost much more than £500? Is this their inlet manifold or their [cough] throttle bodies [/cough]
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vibrio
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inlet only. not the TB system
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miles
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How much is it?
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vibrio
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don;t know. look on regals website
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miles
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I dont care, its more than the velos and mantzel ones, which makes it pants compared to the other products which give the same for about half the price!
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miles
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i take that back, they are £460 for the x16xe.
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