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craig-dodd
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9th May 12 at 14:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

when someone with a high powered let that runs a f20 and it breaks what parts inside the box actually breaks?

[Edited on 09-05-2012 by craig-dodd]
Dan295
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9th May 12 at 14:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

probably the gears on the input or lay shaft, increased bhp means more stress on the teeth making contact with each other and attempting to transfer more torque than they were designed for
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9th May 12 at 14:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I noticed when fitting my f20 back to my let, the input shaft on the f20 is tiny compared to the one on the f28

not sure what part fails though, will probably be able to tell you in a few months when it goes lol
craig-dodd
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9th May 12 at 15:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

thanks for the info lads

i think i will see if mine shits it's self and see if i can make stronger parts for it

[Edited on 09-05-2012 by craig-dodd]
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9th May 12 at 16:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Everything breaks gears shafts the lot and expect about two weeks out of each box !
But on the plus side they are lighter than an f28 and ratios are good
craig-dodd
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9th May 12 at 17:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ive seen that a few people use f18w instead so might get one just in case
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You do know what the numbers mean on the gearbox's ?
Its what ftlb torque they will take !
F20 takes 200ftlb and an f18 takes 180ftlb

[Edited on 09-05-2012 by keidicko]
craig-dodd
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yes i know what they mean but they can actually hold more than rated, its just to be safe, i have seen a few of high powered drag cars run f18w instead so why cant it work for me



[Edited on 09-05-2012 by craig-dodd]
Corsa_Sport21
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9th May 12 at 19:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ive heard of F20's taking good power without issue's, but also heard of them taking not so good power, with issue's.

Start smashing through the box willy nilly, and it won't last. Take some care, feed the boost in etc, and im sure they will last a reasonable amount of time.

Also, im sure Specky was running an F18 at some point with mega power going through it. Im pretty sure it was on the F18 when it recorded 1 of its highest top speed runs too.
craig-dodd
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21


Also, im sure Specky was running an F18 at some point with mega power going through it. Im pretty sure it was on the F18 when it recorded 1 of its highest top speed runs too.


that is what i have heard, supposedly they use the f18w because longer between gear changes so less stress.
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9th May 12 at 19:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It all comes down to what you class as good power?
craig-dodd
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quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
It all comes down to what you class as good power?



im aiming for at least 400whp, if that helps?
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If your looking at 400whp then why you cutting corners and not putting the right box for it?
Your going to be best part of around 10k for the engine and then to fit a £50 gearbox when there is better/stronger gearboxes out there?

F28 or F23 only boxes i would use.

Last time i spoke to Powell with the 500+ White Tigra he had done 4 F28's in a year, if F20's where up for it why would he be spending £250+ on a box when he could throw a F20 in?

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Just click on its for the Rear Engine Corsa and the gearlinkage.
Just fit a cable shift F23 and have done.
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yeah your right i was just tryin to keep it simple, and simple aint always the best way

[Edited on 09-05-2012 by craig-dodd]
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I've killed 4 f28's in the last 3 years. my 5th box is pretty much done for in 3rd gear now. i wouldn't even joke about fitting an f20 when you will end up with a considerable amount of torque if you're aiming for 400 at the wheels.
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thanks for everyones input ill try and get hold of a f23 this week then
gazza808
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quote:
Originally posted by keidicko
You do know what the numbers mean on the gearbox's ?
Its what ftlb torque they will take !
F20 takes 200ftlb and an f18 takes 180ftlb

[Edited on 09-05-2012 by keidicko]


Internet myth.

I know for a fact f18 is stronger than a f20,

Same car killed an f20 every time it went to pod with one fitted, even on road legal tyres,
Then with more power, full on drag slicks, its never killed an f18,

All on a car running 10's, sooo a fair bit of power.

But I agree with beardy get an f23
DERV-POWER
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12th May 12 at 18:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my diesel had a f17 with 220lbft going through it , it was clutch that gave way first

 
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