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M2RTY
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28th Apr 04 at 18:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

as above, are the pistons, head, inlet/outlet valves the same size

can full top half be swapped?

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mike_1.2LS96
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Erm no. Different size pistons, head, valves etc totally different.
M2RTY
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thank u
mike_1.2LS96
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Doubt you could swap the heads, cos the hi torq is a distributorless one the 1.2 has a distributor. If you got a non- hi torq, it would be tricky to put the head w/ manifolds on the 1.2 even though, everything would connect to it (same type of plugs etc).

When I get my 1.2 gasket off, I'll compare to the 1.4 one and let you know.
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wot BHP is the 1.4?
M2RTY
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65?

just needed 2 know as my 1.2 head i have spare is better condition then the 1.4 on it

i assume its hi torque. thought all1.4 8v spi were called that no?
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i have a whole 1.4 hi torq engine f/s and gear box ecu loom etc
u2u me if you want it
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you can put the 1.2 head on the 1.4. loads of posts about this on migweb.
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they are 60 break mate.... got one
mike_1.2LS96
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quote:
Originally posted by Kris TD
you can put the 1.2 head on the 1.4. loads of posts about this on migweb.


Why? What for??
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changes the compression ratio. also apparently the 1.2 has a better design. been loads of posts on mig, lots of novas have done this.
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quote:
Originally posted by mike_1.2LS96
Doubt you could swap the heads, cos the hi torq is a distributorless one the 1.2 has a distributor. If you got a non- hi torq, it would be tricky to put the head w/ manifolds on the 1.2 even though, everything would connect to it (same type of plugs etc).

When I get my 1.2 gasket off, I'll compare to the 1.4 one and let you know.


Nope, there not all distrobuterless... Mine had a dizzy & was a hi-tork (C14NZ)... It mainly depends on the version of the NZ if it has a dizzy or not (there are 3 different versions of the C14NZ according to vaux, 2 had distrobutors (early models) and the later had a distrobuterless igntion system (newest)).

If it is distrobuterless, you can actually fit a 1.6i head from a Nova on the 1.4 block, as it is pretty much the same just a few differences (believe me I seen it done). Not much of a gain tho bhp wise.
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quote:
Originally posted by Kris TD
changes the compression ratio. also apparently the 1.2 has a better design. been loads of posts on mig, lots of novas have done this.


this is true. vaux were lazy designing the 1.4 head for the SPi's
mike_1.2LS96
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Shame I have distributor 1.2 and dist-less 1.4 lol. Would have tried that.
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I have the engine loom & ecu for a 1.4 with a distrobutor in the garage somewhere, but has been there for about 10 months!
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Hmm, what about using the 1.2 valve section and manifolds, but the 1.4 cam top half?
James R
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It's not the Spi head you use. It's the 1.2 carb head, and then the 1.3 SR inlet maniofld. but then you need to make sure it's not runngin lean from the increased VE. but the best heads are the MPI head (round port)
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i always though the 1.2 and 1.4 were the same engine just the cylinders were slightly bigger.
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The SPi's and 1.4 SR heads are the same design (sqaure ports) the 1.2 has slightly small chambers.
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so it will fit

both dissy caps?
James R
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Yesh it will. but use the cam housing from the 1.4 and all it's lifter and rocker etc.. swap them in to the 1.2 head. it will raise compression slightly, but I duobt it anythign to worry about, might even get a slight boost in perf from it, lol

 
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