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Nath
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4th Apr 04 at 13:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Two quotes so far: (1.4 16v engine BTW)

Garage 1: £450
Garage 2:£400



And as its sunday most places arent open, so now i have to make more phonecalls tomorrow morning.

Also i'm not getting a valver conversion as this car is getting sold when i turn 21 in september. Had enough of fixing it and paying out for work on it.
Nath
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4th Apr 04 at 13:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Prices include head skimming too.
mike_1.2LS96
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4th Apr 04 at 13:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Bit steep, buy a gasket for a tenth of those prices and diy.
Nath
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4th Apr 04 at 13:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It's 16v and its not an easy task. I'm all for saving money but this is one for the pro's.
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4th Apr 04 at 13:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Fair enough. The skimming isn't diy either so keep hunting for a lower price.
Nath
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4th Apr 04 at 13:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'll be hunting more tomorrow. I'm detrmined to pay less than £400. £350 is the aim as i've been reading up on here how much people have been paying.

Still an un-needed expense to me though Oh well shit happens.
MoNkEy MaGiC
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4th Apr 04 at 15:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

is their a diff between "rocker cover gasket" and "head gasket?

coz i had my rocker cover gasket done for less than £100 on my 1.6 16v gsi!

[Edited on 04-04-2004 by MoNkEy MaGiC]
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4th Apr 04 at 15:43   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

rocker cover gasket is higher up the engine than head gasket, the head gasket is costly as you need to re time the engien after, and take the big top bit off! the rocker cover gasket is easier to do! just take the small metal cover off
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4th Apr 04 at 15:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

id just buy a 2nd hand engine from scrappy
itll prob be cheaper
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head gasket is really not that hard a job honest you should be lookin at about £15 for the gasket but wen you take the head of you might as well change the cambelt and tensioners so if you did it yourself and got some one to skim the head it'd cost you bout£150 its honestly not that hard if you get stuck just use the haynes
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4th Apr 04 at 16:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Adam-D
id just buy a 2nd hand engine from scrappy
itll prob be cheaper


Good idea, but there's no guarantee that a scrappy engine wouldn't go wrong aswell

16v engines are prone to head gasket failure, mine went last year

Best is to get it fixed if the rest of the engine is ok, if not then just stick a 2.0 16v in there
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4th Apr 04 at 16:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by MoNkEy MaGiC
is their a diff between "rocker cover gasket" and "head gasket?

coz i had my rocker cover gasket done for less than £100 on my 1.6 16v gsi!

[Edited on 04-04-2004 by MoNkEy MaGiC]


rocker cover gasket is the gasket between the head and the rocker cover.
head gasket is inbetween the head and the block.

rocker cover gasket is a piece of piss job to do and takes no time, anyone can do it as it is not demanding atall.
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4th Apr 04 at 16:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Adam-D
id just buy a 2nd hand engine from scrappy
itll prob be cheaper


This is Nath by the way:

I would do that but i know the history of my engine and i know its been looked after, buying an engine from a scrappy could be dodgy. The head could go on that too for all i know. I'm gonna fix this one then the car is being sold in august/september.

Making way for a Italian or French car
Adam-D
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4th Apr 04 at 16:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

buy on eoff someone on here
im sure somone is selling a 1.4 16v and is preem

i bought mine off here and its fine
Pablo
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4th Apr 04 at 17:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Nath again:

I would but then theres fitting etc.... I'm just gonna go ahead and get this one fixed. Balls to it...........I've lost interest in my car now. Thats why it has to go.
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4th Apr 04 at 18:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i spent 180 quid o havin head gasket and valve stem seals replaced

didnt have it skimmed though as head gasket hadnt gone, valve stem seals and replaced head gasket at same time

that also included new cam belt

need to find urself a friendly garage
mike_1.2LS96
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam-D
buy on eoff someone on here
im sure somone is selling a 1.4 16v and is preem

i bought mine off here and its fine


I bought one off here too, today
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4th Apr 04 at 18:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Nath
It's 16v and its not an easy task. I'm all for saving money but this is one for the pro's.


tis a piece of pish
WARPED
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4th Apr 04 at 19:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

bit of a task though if have no previous experience and are bit worried!

dont u have to torque the head bolts up bit by bit incase they snap and fuck ur engine up?
miles
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When mine went I bought a new gasket for £18 and head bolts for £12. Changed for £30.....

The head bolts need to be tightened up in a specific sequence to get a proper gasket seal as they are stretch bolts. Its not hard to do if you have a torque wrench (about £15)

Its 4 hours book time to do it, so if you can find a independant garage and pay about £25/hr it shouldn't be more than about £120 for the labour. Offer to buy the parts yourself and get them from autovaux to save a bit of cash.

A head skim only costs about £25.

Find out what parts are included in the prices before you go ahead.
Nath
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quote:
Originally posted by miles
When mine went I bought a new gasket for £18 and head bolts for £12. Changed for £30.....

The head bolts need to be tightened up in a specific sequence to get a proper gasket seal as they are stretch bolts. Its not hard to do if you have a torque wrench (about £15)

Its 4 hours book time to do it, so if you can find a independant garage and pay about £25/hr it shouldn't be more than about £120 for the labour. Offer to buy the parts yourself and get them from autovaux to save a bit of cash.

A head skim only costs about £25.

Find out what parts are included in the prices before you go ahead.


Thanks for the advice miles. I'll do just that.

Also i have limited mechanical knowledge and whoever said 'tis a piece of pish' is talking from their experience and knowledge. Not everyone is as mechanically minded as you...............

I'll phone up for some more quotes and ask detailed questions.

Also what are the chances the head would need skimming? I drove it no more than 20miles after i thought it was the head gasket that had gone. I havent started it up since i realised and since the symptoms had been noticed.
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id say as long as the temp gauge stayed low throughout the time it was going/gone you should be ok
Nath
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4th Apr 04 at 21:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It was high for that time
WARPED
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if it was high then may have warped under heat, happened to my metro k series gti engine, but that is an alloy engine so not sure if different thing

i only drove it for bout 15 miles but was very hot!
Nath
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4th Apr 04 at 22:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well if i assume its gone and fear the worst it can only be good news from there on in. At least that way i wont inccur any extra costs unlike if i was to think it wasnt warped etc....

Also WARPED i feel your name is appropriate for this conversation

[Edited on 04-04-2004 by Nath]

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