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SabasSRi
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22nd Jul 07 at 21:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

On weds I was driving and the engine temp went past red. Checked the water coolant and it was empty, my fault for not checking. I filled it up and checked today, it was empty again.

What is the cause of this, a leak somewhere?, what are the most common probs?

I'm taking it to a mate tomorrow but any ideas as to what it could be would be helpful as I'm guessing a leak wouldn't be easy to spot, thanks.

[Edited on 22-07-2007 by SabasSRi]

[Edited on 22-07-2007 by SabasSRi]
pdwhelan
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22nd Jul 07 at 21:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If its pissing water that fast then a leak would be easy to spot! Fill it with water and start the engine and look in/around/underneith the engine and look for drips of water. Also check your exhaust for puddles of water or white smoke!

Does the car sometimes struggle to start? have you checked the oil for water?
SabasSRi
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couldn't see any water dripping when the engine is running, I haven't cheacked the oil for water

when I started the car up it had white smoke but thought it could have been normal exhaust fumes.

car doesn't struggle when starting.

I know there's probably a million things it could be, I just want an idea if it's a common thing
pdwhelan
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Get it tested mate, Does the header tank smell of exhaust fumes at all? my head gasket went and i had smoke coming from the header tank and it would smell of exhaust fumes! lots of preasure builds up aswell when you release the top. Does this happen?
SabasSRi
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I don't think it smells of exhaust fumes.

Is it likely to be a head gasket?
pdwhelan
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not sure mate, i reckon its a leak tbh! although my headgasket caused it to lose water that fast but i had the common symptons of a head gasket failure to know what it was!

[Edited on 22-07-2007 by pdwhelan]
SabasSRi
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okay, thanks for the help, I appreciate that without too much detail it's probably hard to tell what it is, I'm going to get a mate to have a look tomorrow.
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Good luck, let us know what happens
SabasSRi
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I will, I'm taking it to his at 4pm tomorrow

Hopefully it won't be too expensive
matt_t586
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Check you oil filer cap, if its got a mayonase type substance on it its your head gasket m8
SabasSRi
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I'm going to go and have a look in a min, thanks
SabasSRi
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I've just checked, the oil cap is fine, the oil is fine, it might be a cracked pipe, or radiatior?
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Cracked rad, split hose, leaking water pump.

Theres a few things to check before assuming HG.
SabasSRi
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thanks, I appreciate the help, I'll get everything checked
dan_c4rsa
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could even be your header tank

the cap seal might be gone so when its hot you lose vapour - spesh it your hooning it.

but yeh, rad might be knackerd. Check all the water hoses by your breather hoses my inlet, one of my jubilee clips had snapped there and i lost a lot of water when the pressure bbuilded up, so when i started the car i couldnt see any leaks as it was just idleing.
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Just got back from my mate's he had a look, there isn't any obvious leaking, there is misfire , he took aout the plugs and one out of four was suspect, oil on the cap was a little watery, he thinks it could be the head gasket.
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23rd Jul 07 at 17:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

head gasket, was it no.4?

what engine?
SabasSRi
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apparently it might not be the headgasket.

I've been told to get a pressure test to check for leaks?

The engine is a 1.4 16v SRI

[Edited on 24-07-2007 by SabasSRi]
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water pump is a comman problem on them engines mine went and was spitting smallest amount of water ever on to ehxaust hissing and evaperating.
SabasSRi
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I took it to a garage, the guy did a pressure test and the liquid changed colour, head gasket will need replacing £520 at this place and they need the car for 2-4 days.

I want to see what vauxhall cost.

when the head gasket gets replaced would it stop the misfire?
dan_c4rsa
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£520!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bloooody 'ell nora.
SabasSRi
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I 'm going to ring vauxhall tomorrow and see how much they are after, they want to send it away to be cracked tested to make sure it hasn't overheated and warped, or something like that

how much should a head gasket cost to replace?

[Edited on 24-07-2007 by SabasSRi]
dan_c4rsa
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im sure a mate of mine got his replaced for 150 on his punto.
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just joining in half way thru here, hi! i work 4 vauxhall pal n it cost about the same as that other place tbh if it was my own car n i was doin it it cost me about 100 quid and probably a day to do it, its the labour involved that makes it expensive
SabasSRi
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vauxhall want £720 to do it.

I'm goignt o buy the gasket which is £100 and my nate's going to do it for £150 when I have the money, so the car isn't going to be driven for ages now.


how long till the new gasket needs replacing?

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